Qantas to start daily Brisbane-Tokyo flights from August

By David Flynn , February 11 2015
Qantas to start daily Brisbane-Tokyo flights from August

Qantas will run daily flights between Brisbane and Tokyo from August 1st, boosting the route from the previously-announced four flights a week.

The direct service between the Queensland and Japanese capitals will run on an Airbus A330 fitted with both business class and economy seats, which will eventually be upgraded to the latest model with the airline's new  Business Suite business class.

QF61 will depart Brisbane at 11.15am to reach Tokyo's Narita Airport at 7.25pm that same day; the QF62 return leg will be wheels-up from Narita at 8.55pm for a 7.15am arrival into Brisbane the following day.

Qantas had previously declared it would also fly to Narita "on three alternate days from another Australian port,", but has opted to anchor the schedule in Brisbane with the daily frequency which is preferred by business travellers.

The current daily Sydney-Narita flights will shift to Haneda, Tokyo's second international airport which is preferred by many business travellers as it's located much closer to the city itself.

The Sydney-Haneda service will remain daily on a Boeing 747.

“We expect the Sydney to Haneda services to be particularly popular with business travellers" predicted Qantas Group CEO Alan Joyce, "and this traffic is likely to keep growing off the back of the Free Trade Agreement between Australia and Japan."

Read: Qantas to launch Sydney-Tokyo Haneda flights

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24 Aug 2011

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and SYD-HND.

10 Aug 2013

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About time! No more Jetstar via Gold Coast for me!

12 Dec 2012

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I don't like the new SYD-HND flight times. Almost no change from the current NRT flights. That doesn't improve things at all.

09 Dec 2014

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The current times are appropriate for business people... It allows them to go straight to the meetings as the flight arrives in the Morning .....

12 Dec 2012

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Evidence please.

The JL SYD-NRT flight is day time. It is often full.

The QF flights often tend to be overbooked by Japanese school groups.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

23 Sep 2014

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What evidence do you want D4iL0fu to post? Pictures of businessmen on the flights?

12 Dec 2012

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QF has never stated that the flights are overnight in both directions because "business people like those times". That claim has only ever come from the public.

 

If the claim was in any way true, then the QF northbound night flight would be filled much more often compared to the JL northbound day flight, nor would they have used a lower capacity A330 during 2009-2012. My experiences on both QF and JL has been more tour and school groups on the overnight flights and more business people on the JL day flight.

 

SYD-HND should be a day return, departing HND around 0730 or 0800 (much like the BA flight) to arrive back in SYD around 1930, while the BNE/MEL(?)-NRT flight should be day time to NRT and night back.

That gives options to travellers, allowing them to pick day or night in both directions between Japan and Australia, improves aircraft use (requiring only 1 aircraft for SYD-TYO instead of the current 2) and saves QF on parking fees for 16 hours/day at one of the most expensive airports in the world.

07 Oct 2012

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Day return from Japan... with really early departure time. Really horrible for everybody and basically rules out domestic connections.

On the other end, a 730 pm arrival back into Sydney limits connections anywhere else in Oz easily... particularly if there is a slight delay. 

Much better flying day to Japan and night on the way back. You know just like the rest of QF's asian operations. 

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

10 Jan 2013

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Ideally, I'd like a service arriving into HND around late afternoon-evening, and departing between 3pm-7pm. I agree Hutch an early morning departure out of HND would be terrible.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

17 Aug 2012

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gippsflyer, something like SYD 10:00 HND 17:30, HND 21:00 SYD 07:30+1?

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

10 Jan 2013

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Close. Ideally an hour later on outward bound, an hour or two earlier on return.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

17 Aug 2012

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You could push it to 11:00-18:30 and then 20:15-06:45+1 or something, but I really wouldn't go any thinner on the layover.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

10 Jan 2013

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That works for me Watson374, adequate time to arrive back MEL to start the day proper and enough time to do a little prep or have a lounge visit between transfers before boarding.

12 Dec 2012

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I'd like day time and overnight Australia-Tokyo options on QF. If SYD is Day North, Overnight South, then BNE should be overnight North, Day South.

The problem here is HND's international slots. Australia only has access to the 2200-0700 slots (It is these slots that caused a number of the US-HND flights to fail).

If MLIT opens up some day time slots for Australia, things would be better for the flight times, but unless that happens, QF needs to work around having to arrive between 2200 and 0700 and depart between 0000 and 0700, knowing that almost all public transport between key areas of the city and the airport stop between 2300 and 0400.

07 Oct 2012

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What would you prefer? 

My main concern, is the poor fleet utilisation. 

12 Dec 2012

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Overnight northbound, daytime southbound. Complement the nighttime south/daytime north of oneworld partner JL TYO-SYD flights.

07 Oct 2012

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I don't think QF should care what JAL does to Australia. Yeah, they are in oneworld, but it is a marketing partnership and a deeper JV on route is unlikely due to regulatory reasons. 

I'd do daytime SYD-HND (like all asian services) and night time return. BNE -NRT could be night departure and day return. 

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

17 Aug 2012

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I would honestly look at ditching NRT entirely, but it's deeper than just the Australian flights as that would necessitate moving the Jetstar Japan base.

07 Oct 2012

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Not the easy getting HND slots

12 Dec 2012

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The Australia-Japan open skys agreement allows unlimited flights between Australia and Japan Except to HND, where only 7 flights a week is allowed to Australian carriers.

04 Aug 2014

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I wonder will JAL eventually shift their NRT service into HND as Qantas will take huge advantage with their night return+HND service.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

17 Aug 2012

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I suspect that the hardest part for JAL is getting an evening landing slot for their schedule. At the sort of 6-ish/7-ish arrival you're looking at when coming from Australia on a day flight, there's a huge wave of regional and domestic arrivals and that surely would drive up the cost.

The departure slot would actually be the easier of the two, given that at the sort of 8-ish/9-ish slot it fits nicely between too late for a regional day flight and too early for a regional redeye.

You'll notice that to get into HND, QF has actually moved their flight quite a bit earlier to get an off-peak slot; hence their HND flight arrives at 0530.

12 Dec 2012

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They were romoured to be trying to for the just announced northern summer season.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

26 May 2014

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Well I don't think many would have guessed that "another Australian port" would be Brisbane !  Looks like Perth - Japan travellers will continue to fly with CX, SQ and Air Asia.  Perhaps it is time QF did some code shares with CX - or does th battle over JQ Hong Kong preclude co-operation for the benefit of Australian customers and the QF business ?

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06 Nov 2014

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I have a feeling they'll cut the OOL-NRT service and perhaps operate JQ on PER-NRT. While I believe SE QLD has demand, I don't think 14 flights a week is sustainable. 

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

26 May 2014

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Or that JQ capacity gets moved to SYD.   Given a choice of JQ direct or CX indirect from Perth, I would be stay with CX for the customer service and timing.

04 Aug 2014

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Good thing about direct flight into HND is that there would be lots of transfer flight avaliable into Osaka and other domestic destination in Japan. 

Lots of people travel to Japan visiting cities other than Tokyo so it makes connection easier for tourists and business travellers. 

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

10 Jan 2013

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No love for MEL, but at least the SYD service is moving to the more convenient HND so that's something.

23 Aug 2011

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Melbourne certainly misses out with 4 x JQ flights at dreadful hours no wonder business people, including me gravitate to CX for TYO and China. Unfortunately if you live out of the Sydney circle you really miss out on a lot of the QF flights and after having to endure the dreadful bus transfer, being herded on to a bus like sheep, as a QF platinum I look for dircet alternatives.  

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

10 Jan 2013

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Qantas is Sydney centric (it's headquarters are there after all), but then so are a lot of the international airlines. At least MEL gets a decent First Lounge, unlike poor Brisbane (and others fare much worse).

I agree about the sad transfers at SYD. It'd lovely if they had a free monorail or Skytrain or other connector like SIN and the like, exclusively shuffling people between terminals.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

04 Mar 2014

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I dont think the bus transfer is actually that bad...at least its airside, try connecting between domestic and international at BNE or PER, have to get a landside bus!

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

10 Jan 2013

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It's only airside at T3, it's deposits you on the landside of T1. As you have a completely streamlined exit from T3 - just walk out the door basically - it's not much of a muchness. Now, if you got to T1 airside or even deposited before immigration but after security (having already come from a sterile area), that would be of assistance.

12 Dec 2012

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How about sticking 1-2 outward immigration booths at the T3 bus transfer gate and you complete departure requirements before boarding the bus over to T1.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

10 Jan 2013

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Now that's thinking!

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

17 Aug 2012

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Actually, you're just looking for less-awful transits.

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10 Jan 2013

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Lol, agreed :-)

11 Feb 2015

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I would like to see QF offer a BNE-SFO service. Would be a good market.

23 Aug 2011

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In reply to jrfsp, no one expects QF to operate the same number of services out of Mel or Bne as it does out of Syd, but sorry the transfer can be abysmal. Try arriving in Syd from JFK [no J seats on the 94 ex LAX] and then having to lug your bags to the transfer area get on an overcrowded bus with the ground staff pushing you inside, babies crying hot and humid, not a nice experience and a very poor reflection on QF service standards. Perth is a joke but does not have the same transit traffic, can't comment on Bne as I have never had to transit through there.

11 Feb 2015

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@Austline. If you think the QF service standards for SYD connections is bad, wait until you try VA.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

10 Jan 2013

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Agreed Ausline, but they could spread the love around a bit more than they do now.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

09 Dec 2014

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QF BNE LOUNGE - with NRT now daily, BNE will need to cater for the morning rush which also includes LAX, SIN and HKG all leaving at approx. the same time.  The lounge will not cope.  Frequent flyers may miss out.  Something needs to be done!!

07 Oct 2012

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Yep, definately need to start a QF lounge refurb program for QF's Australian Int lounges. Starting with BNE.

05 Dec 2013

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What a surprise - Qantas doesn't offer a direct service from Australia's second largest city (again).  Do they seriously expect Melburnians to do that crappy Sydney transfer or fly JQ instead? 

07 Oct 2012

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Didn't realise that Melburnians were such whingers.... so QF has decided to a launch a 2nd daily flight to Tokyo (and from a port other than SYD) and still it ain't good enough.

12 Dec 2012

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Where's my CBR-TYO flight? ;)

07 Oct 2012

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Now that would 'thinking outside the box'

10 Sep 2012

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Q400 or 717?

12 Dec 2012

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For a CBR-TYO?

 

CBR can handle any flying commercial passenger aircraft other then a A380.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

10 Jan 2013

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I commend Qantas for putting a direct service on outside of SYD. God knows EK flies more international services outside of SYD, to thankfully fill the gaps. It's why that alliance works.

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16 May 2011

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Don't worry MEL will get something much better ;-)

Think of a red crane.

10 Sep 2012

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Thing is that if a any airline thought MEL was a goer they'd already be running the service.  No JL, no KE, no OZ, no NH, no QF to Japan.  Melburnians can always take QF to PVG and change to any number of delightful mainland Chinese carriers to continue their journey...

12 Dec 2012

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Well, in the mid 2000's when QF was cutting the Japan routes, MEL was dropped after the QLD routes.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

21 Aug 2014

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IKR. Give everything to Brisbane... and Sydney, leave Melbourne with Perth and Adelaide to rot. 

I did overexaggerate.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

26 May 2014

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Now you have a choice of a crappy transfer in BNE or SYD.  QF will be looking for some MEL and ADL pax to do BNE-NRT.  Not much good though if you want to go PY.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

21 Aug 2014

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What's wrong with this airline? BNE-NRT, really? They could be better off having MEL-NRT, I have no idea why Melbourne isn't that attactive to Qantas even with it being the second largest city in the country and having more corporate HQs than any other Australian city.

07 Oct 2012

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The poor Roo cannot win. Launches a new route and still has people complaining. 

Personally, I prefer seeing QF launch new routes. I don't care whether they benefit me directly or not. It's good to see growth.

18 Jan 2012

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MEL is one of only three desintations in the QF network to have a dedicated F lounge. It has daily A380 flights to LAX and DXB/LHR. It is the first city being targetted for the A330 Business Suite offering.

On top of that, it is the only city in the country where the QF Group will offer daytime and overnight flights in BOTH directions between Australia and Japan.

I feel sorry for QF - damned if they expand, damned if they don't.  

12 Dec 2012

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Just how does MEL get "the only city with daytime and overnight flights in both directions to Japan"?

There is a 4 weekly MEL-NRT on JQ. It's overnight north, daytime south. Thats not daytime and overnight flights in both directions.

QF SYD-HND O/N O/N

QF BNE-NRT Day O/N

JL SYD-NRT Day O/N

JQ CNS-NRT Day O/N

JQ CNS-KIX Day O/N

JQ MEL-NRT O/N Day

JQ OOL-NRT Day O/N

 

No AU-JP route has the choice of BOTH Day and overnight in both directions.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

17 Aug 2012

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The biggest problem with the JQ NRT-MEL is the terrible arrival into Melbourne after midnight.

18 Jan 2012

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MEL is the only city on the QF network where you can fly a daytime return from Japan. This flight gets in too late to MEL to connect to SYD or anywhere else on the domestic network.

Going to Japan you can travel o/n via SYD, or daytime via BNE on QF, or o/n non-stop on JQ, or via CNS/OOL on JQ in the daytime. Whilst not non-stop, the option is still there for MEL customers.

 

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10 Jan 2013

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You mean I can fly Jetstar! Wow, that's a gift I'll happily give back. 

Lufthansa - Miles & More

29 Jul 2014

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Does the city of perth no longer exsist Qantas????????? Just like Ba only 2 bases the rest doesnt matter that much 

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

21 Aug 2014

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I think AJ now hates Perth since since the mining companies now fly with VA not Qantas, although I hope they bring some international services to Perth even if they leave Melbourne for a while.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

06 Nov 2012

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What are the chances of QF bring back PER-Japan flights again?

Lufthansa - Miles & More

29 Jul 2014

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QF fly from Perth it wont happen again 

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

09 Sep 2013

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First world problems really for those on the east coast.  If we in Perth want to remain loyal to the Q, add an extra 12 hours or so for a trip to Japan. And dont ask me about the extra cost.

04 Jan 2014

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She is not happy. Booked her on the QF61/62 in J only to find out when she was sorting out seating, this A330-300 still has the old style seating and not the refurbished Business class 'suites'. A little different to the QF/EK first suites in the A380 we used recently


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