QF737 domestic: Rows 4/5 often unavailable?

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Doktor

Member since 24 Jan 2018

Total posts 19

I’m QF Platinum yet often am unable to find seats in rows 4/5 on domestic flights. On a recent trip I was sitting there and saw that both of my seat neighbours were “mere” Gold - which makes me wonder how are they filling those seats and by what priority?

markpk

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 29 Nov 2013

Total posts 431

Generally they're locked for Chairmans Lounge and Platinum 1 members. The best I've had recently has been row 5 ,mostly its been 6+.


I understand they release them closer to departure time. If they are flow-forwarding pax then theres a good chance you'll get Joe Public beside you

silentiger86

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 23 Dec 2017

Total posts 90

Seats open up T-80 hours. So you may set an alarm on your phone for this to secure rows 4/5. My partner is bronze and has sat in row 4 pretty much all the time.

mern2001

Qantas - P1 Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 10 Apr 2013

Total posts 85

Both MarkPK and Silentiger are correct. I'm platinum and am blocked until T-80 from the front row in economy or business. The interesting thing is that sometimes the seats are not released at all, or are released some time after T-80. I have checked that the seats are empty using Expert Flyer. So the reason they are blocked is not because someone is sitting there. I suspect the front rows may remain blocked on some flights after T-80 because the load is high or there are lots of high status passengers.

daniesut

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 15 Sep 2016

Total posts 42

QF I know block r4\5 on high demand flights - basically the 6am-7am, Syd\Mel, Syd\Bris, etc, and vice versa same of the 5-6pm window daily...I know a lot of people on seat guru, etc setup alerts, as soon as they are released, but sometimes are still blocked - I'm P1, and when I book all 6 seats are normally available on just about all flights, even if I book 3 days out, not every flight has P1's, CL's, etc on them, so just they just sit empty until 80hours out

Doktor

Member since 24 Jan 2018

Total posts 19

So what I'm reading is essentially what I've experienced so far: QF Platinum is a bloody label swindle with virtually no better perks than Gold, other than F lounge access which only makes a difference when flying international anyway. To get the real bennies like guaranteed up front seat, one needs P1 or CL. CL is by invitation only, and P1 you drop on order $80k a year on airfares. That's a huge gap from the already quite steep requirements to get to P. How many freakin P members are there!?

silentiger86

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 23 Dec 2017

Total posts 90

Quite a lot of P flyers out there now. I would suggest set the alarm at T-80 hours to guarantee rows 4/5.

daniesut

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 15 Sep 2016

Total posts 42

So what I'm reading is essentially what I've experienced so far: QF Platinum is a bloody label swindle with virtually no better perks than Gold, other than F lounge access which only makes a difference when flying international anyway. To get the real bennies like guaranteed up front seat, one needs P1 or CL. CL is by invitation only, and P1 you drop on order $80k a year on airfares. That's a huge gap from the already quite steep requirements to get to P. How many freakin P members are there!?

P1 takes a bit more than 80K on fares....~3400 SC's, is a fair number of miles...

"CL is invitation only" - its not really, the organization I work for (cant name for obvious reasons), if your an EGM or business unit head you get a CL membership for 24 months, we make the call not QF, even if you leave the company its still valid....the chairman and CEO wouldn't have a clue who gets them, its all down to how much your org spends with QF, and the "partnership" you have, if you have reciprocal business with QF, you get it too, even if your a small spend on travel.....

mviy

Member since 05 May 2016

Total posts 281

It's actually 3600 SC to get P1. There are ways to get P1 spending a lot, lot less than 80K depending on your travel needs and whether you have the time to fly indirect and what offers may come your way. Take MEL-BNE-CNS return in J. Just 15 of these trips or 7.5 (if all on Double Status Credits) would get P1. That's looking at 30 something k on standard credits or about half that if doing most travel on Double Status Credits. There are some much cheaper ways still to rack up SCs and you could max out the amount of travel allowed on partner airlines towards P1 at very cheap rates per SC.

If QF didn't block seats for P1 and CL then those members would understandably complain about hardly ever being able to select the seats they want.

As a WP member myself it is sad that Platinum benefits have been eroded over time. I do think benefits such as arrivals lounge access to domestic QF lounges, express path even if flying economy, first class QF check-in even flying economy, extra checked luggage allowance (if you need it), priority over Gold for upgrades, upgrades confirmed up to 48 hours out (in practice I've got upgrades approved up to about 60 hours out and with Chauffeur Drive bookings closing at 48 hours out this means there's still the opportunity to book that if the upgrade is approved early enough), ability to select better seats at time of booking than Gold, unofficial ability to request classic reward seats be released... are benefits well worth having in addition to FLounge access. I will be a bit sad when I drop back from WP at some point in the future.

Last editedby mviy at Jan 24, 2018, 10:24 PM.

Doktor

Member since 24 Jan 2018

Total posts 19

What's WP?

The +80h rule just worked for me this morning for the first time. Was able to book previously blocked row 23 on the A333 service SYD-PER.


Happy Trails

Member since 11 Apr 2012

Total posts 85

What's WP?

It's a puerile initialism representing platinum status which seems to have caught on among some of the frequent flyer community.
Originally made up by some members of Flyertalk I believe.




flyingdr

Member since 22 Dec 2017

Total posts 7

So what I'm reading is essentially what I've experienced so far: QF Platinum is a bloody label swindle with virtually no better perks than Gold, other than F lounge access which only makes a difference when flying international anyway. To get the real bennies like guaranteed up front seat, one needs P1 or CL. CL is by invitation only, and P1 you drop on order $80k a year on airfares. That's a huge gap from the already quite steep requirements to get to P. How many freakin P members are there!?

Don't Platinums get domestic business lounge access as well?

Ross

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 10 May 2014

Total posts 83


Don't Platinums get domestic business lounge access as well?
Yes they do.


Theresnormissin

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 14 Oct 2016

Total posts 130

...and international first lounge access***.


***OW airline dependant on if you get access to a ‘true’ first class lounge.

GBRGB

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 21 Jan 2014

Total posts 238

I am a “mere gold” and sit regularly in row 4 and jag myself the aisle seat too most times, I would like to know what sort of conversation is had to ascertain that the person sitting next to you is merely a gold, must be lots of other things in the world to talk about.

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