Member since 22 Jan 2013
Total posts 63
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 10 Apr 2012
Total posts 178
I think it usually has to do with maximising connectivity for onward flights to US/Europe.
Member since 02 Apr 2017
Total posts 164
Doesn't really phase me since I'm not strongly brand loyal. If I have to/want to take a day flight, I'll fly any airline that offers it.
British Airways - Executive Club
Member since 23 Mar 2018
Total posts 32
I think it’s actually more to do with airline schedules for the Australia-based airlines.
Member since 21 Jan 2014
Total posts 245
Because Australia has a sheep mentality, not just airlines but across most businesses in Australia its a case of following the flock, tweak it a little to make it look different, undercut the price by 2%, but essentially offer the same thing as everyone else.
Member since 07 Jan 2011
Total posts 125
I quite enjoyed the Thai 747 service from Sydney at 10am. The 7-9 hour return overnight flights from Asia are irritating as it's almost impossible for me to get a good sleep on them. Meal service takes 2+ hours and then another 1.5 hours before we land.
Member since 28 Aug 2014
Total posts 126
I don't think the loads would be there for earlier departures, it's just
not really what the market wants e.g. a midday flight out of Hong Kong
really just gives pax one useless day in Hong Kong where they can't
achieve anything meaningful, but are forced to pay for an extra night of
accomodation. It also doesn't allow inbound international connections a
sufficient window to arrive at these Asian hubs in time to make the
onward journey home to Australia.The current flight timetable is actually a bit of a symphony of efficiency, if you think about it. Having your Asia flights arrive at similar times in the morning offers all kinds of wonderful time, money and efficiency shortcuts for the airlines here in Australia.
The flight timetables are a product of market forces, and they (QF/VA) really have this nailed down to the best possible configuration without overcatering and having half-empty planes in the sky.
Hey Dredgy. Out of interest, what status do you hold with Oneworld / Sky Team / Star Alliance ? Do you think your status level would be affected if you did have a stronger brand loyalty one way or the other? (Just curious to know the rationale, no judgment!) Cheers!
Member since 18 Apr 2018
Total posts 2
As part of the broader business model for VA and QF, flights arriving in the morning can easily connect to their domestic/Tasman network. As mentioned by another posted previously, evening departures also favour the business traveller to get a full day of work done.
Member since 24 Apr 2012
Total posts 1,106
I quite like the overnight flights from Asia - means I can spend a full day wherever I am, head to the airport at the end of the day for dinner in the lounge, get on board and go straight to sleep, avoiding the need to stay awake for a couple of hours on board for a meal, because I've just eaten.I'm not fussed about waking up early before landing for a bite of breakfast, either: I'd rather get the extra sleep and just eat something when I get home. (Kudos to the cabin crew on a recent Cathay Pacific flight though, who woke me up just in time to get dressed before the seatbelt light came on, and offered me a latte and croissant before touchdown.)On the other hand, if I take a daytime flight home from Asia, it usually means an early start, and by extension, means I'm paying for an extra hotel night without getting much 'extra' time in the city... instead of paying for that night, I pay as well fly home the evening prior, even if on a midnight flight after dinner or drinks in the city.
Member since 28 Oct 2011
Total posts 212
CX offers daytime flights departing HKG to Australia at lunchtime - they can make it work profitably!
Member since 12 Dec 2012
Total posts 287
I would also like to be able to fly during the day so I can get to home/hotel in late afternoon/early evening.It would be nice if QF would have a day and night option in each direction, at least to some airports (Singapore, Tokyo and Hong Kong would be a good start). They could do what JAL has done with their SYD/MEL timetable and have BNE-NRT night north, day south and MEL-NRT day north, night south.
Nope. I've seen this argument rehashed many times on AusBT and beyond, without success.CX offer four flights a day from HKG to SYD, and three of those are evening departures. That's quite revealing, isn't it?CX have saturated the evening timeslot (being that it's the most popular time) and now they have the luxury of adding a fourth flight at some other time of day. So clearly it's not some "peculiar belief" on the part of Australian airlines, it's carriers and their operations planners responding to market forces, which clearly dictate that service demand occurs in the evening. It's simple economics.In addition to the very valid points I've made above, I'd also add that it simply makes sense for business travelers to arrive in Asian destinations in the afternoon, have some dinner, and get a proper night's sleep in a hotel, and then launch fresh into the next business day. Not many business pax would want to fly to Asia overnight and have to front up to meetings groggy and operating on minimal sleep. With respect, it sounds like you enjoy a night time arrival into Australia, because it's no big deal for you to waste an entire day in the air. That's not typical behaviour airlines expect from busier travellers, and it shows in their service planning.
Singapore Airlines - KrisFlyer
Member since 14 Oct 2016
Total posts 1
I did QF52 SIN-BNE recently in 5A. I got a total of 3 hours sleep. The flight is simply not long enough to get a decent length of sleep. SQ offers day flights in both directions which has kept us happy since 2002 in both classes.
Member since 24 Apr 2018
Well, living in Singapore I’d say more daytime to Australia would be welcome. Am captive as OWE and there are no one world options available unless very early and via HKG or KUL Only direct option now being SQ, or LCC.
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