Transfer Velocity points to Singapore Airlines

15 replies

Dolly

Singapore Airlines - KrisFlyer

Member since 24 Jan 2013

Total posts 5

Hi.

Does anybody know when/if Virgin will reinstate the transfer of Velocity Points to Singapore Airlines Krisflyer?

DanV

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 04 Nov 2017

Total posts 79

Originally Posted by Dolly

Hi.

Does anybody know when/if Virgin will reinstate the transfer of Velocity Points to Singapore Airlines Krisflyer?

Extremely unlikely this will return under the ownership of Bain. If in the slim chance it does return, it'll be likely due to Bain 'getting something from SQ' to cover the costs of operating the program, plus with a worse transfer rate.

It was reported to be a money drain/loser back when VA was part owned by SQ, Bain won't be keen to pay SQ for points unless if theres 'something in it for them' as per all PE firms.

gredgy69

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 29 May 2013

Total posts 50

Originally Posted by DanV

Originally Posted by Dolly

Hi.

Does anybody know when/if Virgin will reinstate the transfer of Velocity Points to Singapore Airlines Krisflyer?

Extremely unlikely this will return under the ownership of Bain. If in the slim chance it does return, it'll be likely due to Bain 'getting something from SQ' to cover the costs of operating the program, plus with a worse transfer rate.

It was reported to be a money drain/loser back when VA was part owned by SQ, Bain won't be keen to pay SQ for points unless if theres 'something in it for them' as per all PE firms.

Whilst I hope you are wrong, I think I agree with you. If that is the case I will be burning my points and going back to Qantas.

RedWood

Member since 04 Sep 2019

Total posts 9

This was the only good reason to have VA points was the krisflyer swap.

Its a damn shame, but I guess its easier to maintain 1 program than 2

abudhabi1

Thai Airways International - Royal Orchid Plus

Member since 15 Jan 2013

Total posts 83

a bit unfortunate.imagine if you were in a situation where part of your journey was SIA,or air nz or air canada or united or thai or lufthansa and you had krisflyer to earn points on and they are not transferrable.i had a thai royal orchid for all of that in the past but was lucky to have been donated the miles to help a bangkok hospital in their case.

petwatff

Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards

Member since 15 Nov 2018

Total posts 1

I hold a sliver of hope it will return. Lets consider the recent prognosis that Virgin was all but dead in the water, any return was as a LCC and at best, in between a LCC and FCC. Certainly no business class, food and drinks purchased on board. Lounges? Well, kiss those good-bye! So, IMHO, Bain being a bottom line beast will have costed the potential loss of velocity members to QFF should they not provide an alternative. I am one of those people that once its absolutely clear I have no award options beyond Australian borders then I will burn my VFF points and not return (unless its an exceptional deal). So, I hold a sliver of hope because Bain needs international partners, the pandemic has assisted the delay but the clock is ticking.

mmfsurg

Singapore Airlines - The PPS Club

Member since 21 Mar 2018

Total posts 1

From the SQ website:
Can I earn KrisFlyer Elite Miles on Virgin Australia
KrisFlyer members can earn Elite Miles when travelling on a Singapore Airlines codeshare operated by Virgin Australia.

airbear

Velocity

Member since 19 Jun 2013

Total posts 3

It would be nice if it happens, but not holding my breath. Best halfway realistic case I believe , I’d be hoping for a travel bubble to open up to S’pore and/or Thailand so I can burn some of my VA points on a SQ biz-cl return trip.

Meantime, I’ve given up hope on ever being permitted to travel freely beyond limited parts of SE Asia at best. Time and age are against me, sadly.

Antysyd

Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards

Member since 18 Aug 2020

Total posts 2

Remember that you could still redeem on SQ flights. The points transfer function was highly unusual in the world of FF programs unless there was joint ownership involved (e.g. Avios).

gredgy69

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 29 May 2013

Total posts 50

Originally Posted by Antysyd

Remember that you could still redeem on SQ flights. The points transfer function was highly unusual in the world of FF programs unless there was joint ownership involved (e.g. Avios).

That's true Antysyd, however being able to transfer to SQ opened up a lot more award flights IIRC.

DanV

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 04 Nov 2017

Total posts 79

Originally Posted by Antysyd

Remember that you could still redeem on SQ flights. The points transfer function was highly unusual in the world of FF programs unless there was joint ownership involved (e.g. Avios).

IMO, the SQ stake in VA at the time largely contributed to the unique arrangement.

Saying that a lot of people would be hoping Bain would at least renegotiate/renew the SQ partnership, even if Bain are not keen on resuming the Velocity/Krisflyer transfer arrangement for reasons mentioned in the previous posts.

belbinr

Member since 15 Aug 2017

Total posts 2

Virgin might join one of the global programs to boost the value of the Velocity points however with long haul still a long way off probably not in any rush. They would be accumulating too many points for just domestic so they will ahve to find a way for members to burn them - only so many toasters one can have.

Hoppy57

Member since 18 Oct 2019

Total posts 1

How do i keep my Krisflyer account open so as not to loose my points even when i cant travel as yet .Is there a complementry credit card i should get ?

gredgy69

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 29 May 2013

Total posts 50

Originally Posted by Hoppy57

How do i keep my Krisflyer account open so as not to loose my points even when i cant travel as yet .Is there a complementry credit card i should get ?

Your points/miles are valid for 3 years from the end of the month that they were earned in, so if earned 15th April 2021 would be valid until 30th April 2024. You are also able to extend their expiry date once for 6 mths or 12 mths depending on your status level. This can be done using points (1200) or paying a fee (US$12) per 10,000 points you want to extend.

Boeing-Tragic

Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards

Member since 24 Jan 2018

Total posts 20

What are the prospects of SIA and Virgin allowing a transfer back of points moved from Virgin to SIA before Administration? Would be good revenue for Virgin.

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