Virgin Australia to fly Sydney-Hong Kong

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Tim Saunders

Member since 13 Sep 2016

Total posts 30

VA has already said it will fly SYD-HKG from next year, and I for one am looking forward to this. About time we had some competition on the route and an alternative to the OneWorld duopoly of Qantas and Cathay Pacific. Hopefully the flights will connect neatly into Virgin Atlantic's HKG-LHR service too because I doubt we will ever see Virgin Atlantic back in Australia. What does everybody else here think of flying Virgin Australia to Hong Kong? I'll definitely be up for it!

Jorge_fly

Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards

Member since 08 Feb 2016

Total posts 83

I will definitely be up for it too. Flying to HK via Singapore makes a 9 hours direct flight to a 13 hour trip. A bit of a hassle and waste of time but this way helps me retain my VA platinum. I wonder which fleet they will fly to HK and how many classes?

Mal

Member since 14 Jun 2013

Total posts 109

Do we know for sure it will be a Virgin Australia flight? Virgin has said it will launch flights to Beijing and Hong Kong but I thought it would only be doing one of those routes while Hainan Airlines or Hong Kong Airlines, both of which are owned by new VA partner HNA, would run the other? So maybe it might be Virgin to Beijing and HKA to Hong Kong?

AwaywithMike

Member since 23 Jun 2011

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Hoping for VA to HKG - so can continue on wiht VS ! :-p

hutch

Member since 07 Oct 2012

Total posts 761

Do we know for sure it will be a Virgin Australia flight? Virgin has said it will launch flights to Beijing and Hong Kong but I thought it would only be doing one of those routes while Hainan Airlines or Hong Kong Airlines, both of which are owned by new VA partner HNA, would run the other? So maybe it might be Virgin to Beijing and HKA to Hong Kong?

It has to be Virgin to HKG as Hong Kong based carriers (Cathay) have used up all their capacity in the Australia-HKG bilateral. 

Also, whilst the Virgin flight may end up connecting with the V Atlantic flight by chance, I doubt that is much of a concern to VA. The O&D market is quite large, they have a connecting partner (and owner) in HKG useful for Chinese / Nth Asia and that whilst the Virgin airlines share a name, there is little connection between the two anymore. Atlantic has its bed buddy, Delta and VA has its orgy of owners (some of whom fly to London).

MattJelonek

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Member since 08 Jun 2014

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Nooo!!!!!! PER to mainland China please VA metal + codeshare.

hutch

Member since 07 Oct 2012

Total posts 761

I will definitely be up for it too. Flying to HK via Singapore makes a 9 hours direct flight to a 13 hour trip. A bit of a hassle and waste of time but this way helps me retain my VA platinum. I wonder which fleet they will fly to HK and how many classes?

They are flying their A330-200s

joel1986

Member since 13 Jul 2015

Total posts 3

Who said its from Sydney...source? Nothing's been announced yet

Covo95

Member since 30 Jul 2015

Total posts 52

 You have no evidence to prove that they announced that. i know virgin are planning beijing and hong kong flights but they haven announced more details as to which Aus cities they are flying from. 

Doubleplatinum Banned

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Member since 07 Feb 2013

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Nooo!!!!!! PER to mainland China please VA metal + codeshare.
That's not getting old much!

chanvw

Member since 19 Aug 2011

Total posts 10

Where did VA say that they would fly SYD-HKG? All the info I've seen so far just says "an Australian city" to HKG with no mention of SYD.

Himeno

Member since 12 Dec 2012

Total posts 289

Do we know for sure it will be a Virgin Australia flight? Virgin has said it will launch flights to Beijing and Hong Kong but I thought it would only be doing one of those routes while Hainan Airlines or Hong Kong Airlines, both of which are owned by new VA partner HNA, would run the other? So maybe it might be Virgin to Beijing and HKA to Hong Kong?


It has to be Virgin to HKG as Hong Kong based carriers (Cathay) have used up all their capacity in the Australia-HKG bilateral. [/quote]

Hong Kong carriers have used up all their allowed flights to the major Australian gateways (PER/MEL/BNE/SYD), there is nothing in the bilateral preventing any HKG carrier from starting new service to any other Australian port.

VA got 1,925 seats/week between the 4 major AU ports and mainland China and 7 flights/week to HKG in June. They have not yet said which of the 4 Australian ports those flights will be using.
These allocations are not able to be used for codeshares. Thus, VA will be operating them.
Both applications listed the routes as between Australia and PEK/HKG using A332s by 1 June 2017

Last editedby Himeno at Oct 13, 2016, 03:17 AM.

hutch

Member since 07 Oct 2012

Total posts 761

Do we know for sure it will be a Virgin Australia flight? Virgin has said it will launch flights to Beijing and Hong Kong but I thought it would only be doing one of those routes while Hainan Airlines or Hong Kong Airlines, both of which are owned by new VA partner HNA, would run the other? So maybe it might be Virgin to Beijing and HKA to Hong Kong?


It has to be Virgin to HKG as Hong Kong based carriers (Cathay) have used up all their capacity in the Australia-HKG bilateral.

Hong Kong carriers have used up all their allowed flights to the major Australian gateways (PER/MEL/BNE/SYD), there is nothing in the bilateral preventing any HKG carrier from starting new service to any other Australian port.

VA got 1,925 seats/week between the 4 major AU ports and mainland China and 7 flights/week to HKG in June. They have not yet said which of the 4 Australian ports those flights will be using.
These allocations are not able to be used for codeshares. Thus, VA will be operating them.
Both applications listed the routes as between Australia and PEK/HKG using A332s by 1 June 2017
Last edited by Himeno at Oct 13, 2016, 03.17 AM.

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Thanks Himeno, but whenever there is talk about carriers using up capacity, it is talking about the big 4 is it not?. There may be some older agreements, but AFAIK, all other airports are a free for all / most countries.

In any case, I'm willing to argue that Virgin will not fly to HKG from any airport other than a big 4 airport as that offers the greatest return to their Chinese partner. That's why I'd also be shocked if it wasn't Sydney as I'm making an educated guess  that would be Hong Kong Airlines first choice of destination if they could fly there.

DBPZ

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Member since 26 Feb 2016

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Okay... Since Mel and Syd are seamlessly connected, it is not too different from Mel-hkg.


Wait a moment, how can I travel between Syd's intl and domc terminals without wondering around the confusing shuttle bus stops or paying for the underground train? Can VA do something that is similar to the dedicated shuttle bus operated by Qantas?

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