Business class upgrades on Qantas QF9, QF10 Perth-London

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MrT

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Hi all,


I’m considering purchasing a premium economy ticket on QF9/10 and requesting a points upgrade to business. I’m QF Gold and have a good success rate doing the same on QF1/2, but wondering what the chances are like on the 787 given the smaller business cabin and greater desire for people to upgrade on the long flight, despite fewer pax in cheaper seats gunning for an upgrade.

Always a gamble of course, but would be good to get a feel for the odds and people’s experiences.

Travelling peak uk summer 2019 but not during Aus school holidays.

Cheers

whoppersandwich

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I’d say they’re pretty good, I just did it as a Gold during Aus school holidays in northern summer!

mviy

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Back when QF9/10 it was an easy decision to book QF9/10 for the higher upgrade chance.

Now I'm not so sure as the 787 is a lot smaller and more attractive to PER based passengers.

PERflyer

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I had a premium y to J points ug come through QF 10 LHR-PER in March. Was a gold at the time. That long flight is superb for continuous sleep!

mviy

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Gold is starting to get into the range where upgrade chances are getting better but I would think there would be a difference between March and the peak time of the year.

There's a chance if one applied for an upgrade on QF10 LHR-PER-MEL that one would fail to get if for LHR-PER and then get it for PER-MEL (as a number of passengers wouldn't need to fly to/via MEL to get to their destination).

There are sites that let you lookup loads in the various fare classes but those only start to be a very good indication days out from the flight (which is pretty late to book).

patrickk

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I have had upgrades as well so has my wife from a cheap economy to PE. Pick the day of the week that may have fewer business type passaengers. Say a Wednesday going to London or a Saturday/Sunday coming back.

reno

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Not looking good.

aeries

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Just had a quick look at load factors, do you have a definitive date? I'm using yours as just a ballpark figure...


The J cabin looks to be quite empty thus far, 16 blocked seats because im a PS but some cabins are still empty, others have 4-6 seats occupied.

Happy travels!

MrT

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Just had a quick look at load factors, do you have a definitive date? I'm using yours as just a ballpark figure...

The J cabin looks to be quite empty thus far, 16 blocked seats because im a PS but some cabins are still empty, others have 4-6 seats occupied.

Happy travels!

Thanks - I agree there are plenty of J seats showing for this time next year, but if you look at loads over the next couple of weeks (which is the time I'm thinking of for 2019) the J cabin appears to be fully sold, which would mean no seats for upgraders. I think the absence of an F cabin is a major factor here, as pax upgraded from J to F on the A380 usually frees up a couple of J seats.

Rezzadogs

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Flew QF 10 last week. J class was full on LHR/PER and about 50% PER/MEL. Booked a J seat as a one way ticket a few days out and got a good price (well relative to QF pricing), so presume there were plenty of seats available and the remaining ones filled with points upgrades.

I would guess that you would have a higher chance of success on QF1/2 on the LON/SIN sectors and then have another chance on the SIN/AUS sector - so less chance of doing the whole distance in PE.

J seats are more private on the 787 (particularly when flush against the window), but also a bit cramped in comparison to the A380 version There wasn't a lot of room in the foot well to turn over when the bed was fully extended, but felt there was plenty of legroom when upright or partially lowered.

Rav

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What are the load sites that give the info as I am thinking of looking at an upgrade from J to F coming back from Singapore in early OCT in the A380?

Les White

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I wouldn’t mind knowing the load sites too, flying PE on the dreamy on December 4th to blighty.

MrT

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I use expert flyer. Easily worth the subscription fee for loads, seat maps and award searches

MrT

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P.s. I’m not affliated with expert flyer!

Andyzx

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Hi Mr T. To me it’s a case of want or need. If you happy in PE and happier in J then go for it.

Non business days tues-thur are generally better chances. As is gold and lots of FF points. Yes expert flyer is a help but not for 2019. Avoid May to July but you still might be lucky. It you NEED it buy a ticket, it’s the only way to be sure - sorry but the truth. I just did, All the right things for a J to F upgrade and F was less than 50% but still no luck. Maybe QF don’t like me 😂

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