Is there a reason Australian airlines have these weight limits (do they come from Government Regulation?). BA has a 23kg limit (which I reckon is based on an OH&S manual handling limit), AA and UA is basically whatever you can lift.
Have always wondered why cabin baggage size and weight has never ended up being uniform across the world given the general agreement on check in luggage.
I carry quite a lot of goods and samples in my bags that have batteries. Good luck taking my 8kg bag and putting it in the hold.
No sympathy for the CSM who had a shoulder injury - it’s a job requirement to be able to lift bags up to 23kg (advertised as such and an interview question). If you were a builder and you can’t take the extra weight any more then you’re probably looking at a new career. It’s no different in my mind with this so why does a cabin crew get extra dragon rights?
Good on you Qantas for doing something right for a change. I hope all airlines enforce this more often. Really annoys me when I go to put something in the overhead and its full, especially when the seats below are still empty.
Agree with many comments, if you cannot lift your bag above your shoulders, you should be forced to check it in....countless times I’ve seen people roll bags onto a plane that they have no ability at all to lift and just stand there waiting for you to put it up there for them, or they try and you can clearly see an injury to an innocent person coming, probably QF need to improve the “how” on policing this, but I’m in full agreement with it
Nailed it! I agree there should be a 1kg or so allowance. Sure people trying to bring 10kg - 15kg onboard need to be brought into line, but strictly 7kg is pretty poor. Also, if it's OH&S, why can't they announce to pax to place heavier items under the seat. And send Boeing their Workers Comp bills until they sort out a fix!
Why should Boeing fit the bill? Stick to the rules - 7kg or less. Society these days...
I carry quite a lot of goods and samples in my bags that have batteries. Good luck taking my 8kg bag and putting it in the hold.
No sympathy for the CSM who had a shoulder injury - it’s a job requirement to be able to lift bags up to 23kg (advertised as such and an interview question). If you were a builder and you can’t take the extra weight any more then you’re probably looking at a new career. It’s no different in my mind with this so why does a cabin crew get extra dragon rights?
Can you provide a source for where you've seen this requirement to lift 23kg bags? It doesn't exist
Good on you Qantas for doing something right for a change. I hope all airlines enforce this more often. Really annoys me when I go to put something in the overhead and its full, especially when the seats below are still empty.
What you're talking about here though is the size of a bag, not the weight of a bag. From all reports, the latest enforcement at the boarding gate only checks weight, so whether a bag is 2kg or 7kg (or 10kg), it'd take up the same amount of space in the locker, and you'd be back where you started.
What you're really happy about seems to be the airline forcing other passengers to put their bags in the hold so that you're free to carry on!
Although I agree that 7kg can be a bit low (especially for business class) as a physiotherapist I know of two people who have had significant neck injuries from heavy bags of other passengers falling on their heads (usually well over weight limit hence some people struggle putting them there).
Bins must be able to take 23kg bags or BA wouldn't allow it 'though they don't operate B737s except on charter, however they expect you to lift the bag not the crew!
Key is consistency. I agree the rules/guidelines should be adhered to. I avoid at all costs doing checked baggage as I have experianced waiting at the other end has been almost as long as the flight itself. QF need to add addtional baggage handlers if they are going to enforce this.
I carry quite a lot of goods and samples in my bags that have batteries. Good luck taking my 8kg bag and putting it in the hold.
No sympathy for the CSM who had a shoulder injury - it’s a job requirement to be able to lift bags up to 23kg (advertised as such and an interview question). If you were a builder and you can’t take the extra weight any more then you’re probably looking at a new career. It’s no different in my mind with this so why does a cabin crew get extra dragon rights?
Can you provide a source for where you've seen this requirement to lift 23kg bags? It doesn't exist
Exactly. You will find that even manual jobs the lifting limit is "physical capability of the person to a maximum of xxkg". If you cant physically lift 15kg etc above your head then you cant be made to by an employer there is a big shift in OHS around safe lifting limits and ultimately its what the person is comfortable with to the maximum prescribed safe single person lift method. Injuries cost all businesses money (time off, work cover fees etc)
I hope you don't actually manage any staff with that attitude ryanpst, would find yourself out of a job when you open your mouth about the wrong thing to the wrong person. If you cant comply with the rules don't get on the flight. If you carry that much gear in your dodgy sales bag then it goes in the hold with everyone else's luggage.
Last editedby jared7825 at Nov 14, 2018, 03:28 PM.
It’s in reality an aircraft design issue. The luggage compartment needs to be redesigned because any over head lifting leaves the shoulder vulnerable to injury. Even with 7 kg bags it’s an ohs issue. So the passengers are the meat in the sandwich.
mattincbr
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Is there a reason Australian airlines have these weight limits (do they come from Government Regulation?). BA has a 23kg limit (which I reckon is based on an OH&S manual handling limit), AA and UA is basically whatever you can lift.
markpk
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No sympathy for the CSM who had a shoulder injury - it’s a job requirement to be able to lift bags up to 23kg (advertised as such and an interview question). If you were a builder and you can’t take the extra weight any more then you’re probably looking at a new career. It’s no different in my mind with this so why does a cabin crew get extra dragon rights?
Good luck being allowed on board champ...
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crwilkins
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Agree with many comments, if you cannot lift your bag above your shoulders, you should be forced to check it in....countless times I’ve seen people roll bags onto a plane that they have no ability at all to lift and just stand there waiting for you to put it up there for them, or they try and you can clearly see an injury to an innocent person coming, probably QF need to improve the “how” on policing this, but I’m in full agreement with it
aklrunway
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Nailed it! I agree there should be a 1kg or so allowance. Sure people trying to bring 10kg - 15kg onboard need to be brought into line, but strictly 7kg is pretty poor. Also, if it's OH&S, why can't they announce to pax to place heavier items under the seat. And send Boeing their Workers Comp bills until they sort out a fix!
Why should Boeing fit the bill? Stick to the rules - 7kg or less. Society these days...
aklrunway
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No sympathy for the CSM who had a shoulder injury - it’s a job requirement to be able to lift bags up to 23kg (advertised as such and an interview question). If you were a builder and you can’t take the extra weight any more then you’re probably looking at a new career. It’s no different in my mind with this so why does a cabin crew get extra dragon rights?
Can you provide a source for where you've seen this requirement to lift 23kg bags? It doesn't exist
deanr
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What you're talking about here though is the size of a bag, not the weight of a bag. From all reports, the latest enforcement at the boarding gate only checks weight, so whether a bag is 2kg or 7kg (or 10kg), it'd take up the same amount of space in the locker, and you'd be back where you started.
What you're really happy about seems to be the airline forcing other passengers to put their bags in the hold so that you're free to carry on!
Gilflyer
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Although I agree that 7kg can be a bit low (especially for business class) as a physiotherapist I know of two people who have had significant neck injuries from heavy bags of other passengers falling on their heads (usually well over weight limit hence some people struggle putting them there).
Geoffair
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Bins must be able to take 23kg bags or BA wouldn't allow it 'though they don't operate B737s except on charter, however they expect you to lift the bag not the crew!
JKH
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Well at least QF are predictably inconsistent as usual ;)
BLAMEX
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Key is consistency. I agree the rules/guidelines should be adhered to. I avoid at all costs doing checked baggage as I have experianced waiting at the other end has been almost as long as the flight itself. QF need to add addtional baggage handlers if they are going to enforce this.
Karl
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Good to see this being applied. If you have been hit on the head by a bag falling out of the overhead locker then you will understand why!
jared7825
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No sympathy for the CSM who had a shoulder injury - it’s a job requirement to be able to lift bags up to 23kg (advertised as such and an interview question). If you were a builder and you can’t take the extra weight any more then you’re probably looking at a new career. It’s no different in my mind with this so why does a cabin crew get extra dragon rights?
Can you provide a source for where you've seen this requirement to lift 23kg bags? It doesn't exist
Exactly. You will find that even manual jobs the lifting limit is "physical capability of the person to a maximum of xxkg". If you cant physically lift 15kg etc above your head then you cant be made to by an employer there is a big shift in OHS around safe lifting limits and ultimately its what the person is comfortable with to the maximum prescribed safe single person lift method. Injuries cost all businesses money (time off, work cover fees etc)
I hope you don't actually manage any staff with that attitude ryanpst, would find yourself out of a job when you open your mouth about the wrong thing to the wrong person. If you cant comply with the rules don't get on the flight. If you carry that much gear in your dodgy sales bag then it goes in the hold with everyone else's luggage.
Hotcat1970
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The passenger should be able to lift it into the bin unaided, or check the bag.
Rxm
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It’s in reality an aircraft design issue. The luggage compartment needs to be redesigned because any over head lifting leaves the shoulder vulnerable to injury. Even with 7 kg bags it’s an ohs issue. So the passengers are the meat in the sandwich.