Emirates CEO plans Airbus A380s for Brisbane, Perth, Adelaide

By David Flynn, January 31 2018

Emirates hopes to upgrade all its flights to Brisbane, Perth and Adelaide to Airbus A380 jets on the back of the airline's recent US$16 billion order for an additional 36 superjumbos on top of its current 101-strong fleet.

Boeing 777s currently darting between each of those three cities and Dubai would be replaced by the flagship A380s, providing a substantial boost in capacity.

"There will come a time when people will say ‘now what do we do? I’ve got no more (airport) slots'," Sir Tim Clark told Fairfax Media, which also reported Clark saying Emirates "would likely replace its remaining 777s flying into Brisbane, Perth and Adelaide with A380s following its recent order."

Emirates already has three daily A380 flights from Sydney, which Clark praised as a "goldmine" market, and one each out of Melbourne, Brisbane and Perth.

However, the Gulf carrier has also pulled out its A380s off trans-Tasman flights between Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane to Auckland citing competition on that add-on leg.

Clark considers Qantas' imminent move to abandon Dubai as its hub for London flights and move back to Singapore as a "strategic" decision by Qantas CEO Alan Joyce.

"Alan was starting to realise that the partnership was so strong, with our metal doing so much in the west for him, that it was perhaps a good time to rethink their strategy."

However, the impact of Qantas' shift towards ultra-long range non-stop flights – including direct routes to London and New York from 2022 – remains to be seen.

"Will that affect what we do out of Australia into those cities, because he’ll be going non-stop and we’ll have an intermediate point (our hub) is anybody’s guess," Clark said.

"If the market grows, there’s plenty for all. If it flatlines or goes south, all of us have to go into a reset mode."

Read more: Qantas' globe-spanning plans could change alliance, says Emirates boss

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reeves35

reeves35

24 Aug 2011

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What???.... no Canberra!!! (just joking)

drsimon50

drsimon50

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10 Oct 2013

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is adelaide a380 ready? - ie the runway? the terminal certainly isnt - but would be great for us!

reeves35

reeves35

24 Aug 2011

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I believe the runway is capable from a loading point of view. The A380 is quite efficient from a runway and taxiway loading point of view. The only potential issue from a runway point of view may be runway width due to the spacing of the outboard engines.

The terminal would be capable but could not do multi door entry currently but i have done single door boarding in DXB on an A380 and provided it is organised it works quite well.

Brassy

Brassy

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15 Apr 2016

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I wondered the same thing drsimon. From memory, a380 needs at least 3000m and Adl is 3100m long. They'd need a new air bridge arrangement though and some other upgrades.

Maybe we'd finally get beer on tap in The Lounge.....?

Spizz

Spizz

13 Jun 2017

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The Emirates A380 and Etihad A380 and Qantas A380 have all landed and taken off from Adelaide airport due to Diversions. Check Youtube for the clips. So I wouldn't believe it would be an issue.

sgb

sgb

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30 Nov 2015

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What a colossus Airline Emirates is. My favourite. What a bold decision to order all those new A380's. Keep up the style. Could they resume Trans Tasman from melbourne to auckland, PLEASE.

sanj747

sanj747

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01 Nov 2016

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With a 100 of them and more to come it is a no brainer. Interesting to see how much load an 380 out of Adelaide will get. David, Emirates has 3 x A380s out of Sydney (2 non stop and 1 via BKK) with a 4th to start in March which will be a non stop.

josephjohn8484

josephjohn8484

17 Jan 2013

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adelaides arrivals hall - more specifically, its baggage/customs hall, cant cope with a jetstar a320 let alone an a380. i dont think the jet bridges are a380 capable either

drsimon50

drsimon50

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10 Oct 2013

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i love adelaide airport for its tiny quirkiness - but really cant see how it will cope with a ?full a380 - i hope they can but that remains to be seen - the 777 is nearly always full when i am on it!

amac

amac

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02 Oct 2015

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Mate - I'd say the way out is the least of the worries. Have you seen the security line on any average weekday morning!?

smit0847

smit0847

30 Aug 2013

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Would be amazed if there was demand for a daily A380 flight to ADL vs a second daily 77W via somewhere IN Asia (BKK is the obvious choice as there are already direct flights on other carriers to SIN, KUL, DPS and HKG)

drsimon50

drsimon50

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10 Oct 2013

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i like the sound of that!

Lachlan72

Lachlan72

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24 Jan 2016

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Just to clarify as the article mentions 2 flights, David... EK has 3 daily flights ex-SYD daily: 2 Direct and 1 via BKK. (EK 413, 415 and 419)

David

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Ah, of course – had my 'Dubai' hat on – thanks for the pick-up, Lachlan!

Caversham04

Caversham04

30 Mar 2014

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Good to hear - I'd consider ADL-LHR on their A380; no way on earth will I do it at the moment on their 777 in 3-4-3 seating in economy

hwle

hwle

05 Dec 2013

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I thought Emirates had 3x daily A380 flights from Melbourne as of later this year? 1x via Singapore and 2x direct?

MelbFlyer

MelbFlyer

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23 May 2013

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Correct - at the moment both EK406/407 (direct) and EK404/405 (via Singapore) are A380s with EK408/409 moving to an A380 from March 25th when Qantas pulls the A380 via DXB and starts the Dreamliner via Perth.

PERflyer

PERflyer

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15 Aug 2017

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EK had cut the 2x daily Perth A380’s back down to 1x380 & 1x77W and with Qatar upguaging to daily 380 to Perth soon that’s some mega capacity from EK again. EY also rumoured to be looking to upguage from 789 to 77W. With QF direct to LHR starting soon that’s some serious capacity to Europe from Perth.

Interesting to note mining is seriously cranking up again over here in the West. Media hasn’t got a hold of it yet but working in the industry I can see it.

AAdams

AAdams

31 Jan 2018

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"EK had cut the 2x daily Perth A380’s back down to 1x380 & 1x77W"?

PERflyer, I think that you mean:

EK cut the 3x daily Perth B777s to 1x380 & 1x77W

Mjudd

Mjudd

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14 Dec 2016

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Yeah, why is the article headline 'CEO plans A380's from Brisbane, Perth, and Adelaide', when 2 out of 3 already receive A380s?

David

David

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Because as the first paragraph says, "Emirates hopes to upgrade all its flights to Brisbane, Perth and Adelaide to Airbus A380 jets" (italics mine, for emphasis). And second par: "Boeing 777s currently darting between each of those three cities and Dubai would be replaced by the flagship A380s..."

Tancho

Tancho

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31 Jan 2013

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I think ADL would struggle processing arrivals. SmartGates work well for passport clearance but the bottleneck is customs and quarantine.

Depends also on the arrival time of the flight. A lot of the arrivals from Asia land between 7-9am. When there is an overlap between 2 flights (usually MAS and SQ), that tiny area becomes a nightmare. You land up stepping over each other just trying to get out. Also one conveyor belt (which has broken down in the past).

What about lounge access? Would Emirates be looking to put in their own lounge? Not sure the Qantas lounge could handle the additional load as it is a shared lounge for international and domestic and affiliates. Quite busy at certain times. While it is an okay lounge, it certainly isn't to the standard of an Emirates International lounge.

I welcome the competition though, good to see more options open up.

ivalaine

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are you kidding me? I'd take adelaide customs and immigration over any other city any day. At least you rarely have a connecting flight to catch so there's no pressure. I've never taken more than 30 minutes at adelaide (one exception). Customs is far more relaxed than melb or syd or brisbane. And you only ever get one plane coming in at a time due to only one international gate. So no issues of getting immigration to see a football oval space full of people ahead of you because several big planes arrived at once.

Also, Adelaide doesn't do A380s. They tested it and declared there wasn't enough buffer space for any issues in landings. They will do emergency landings/diversions, but not regular flights. Would be very surprised to see them change their minds now... we havent had that many diversions of A380s to ADL to justify changing that....

lesleydr

lesleydr

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31 Jan 2018

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Looking forward to this if they fly from Adelaide. Flew Emirates to Europe in 2016 in a 777. Never again. Shouldn't be a problem with congestion as current flight arrives and leaves late evening.

jgb59

jgb59

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16 Mar 2016

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I think it is a good move given that ADL often has good points availability in business class which is much more desirable on an A380 v 777

GBRGB

GBRGB

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21 Jan 2014

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Their overall strategy that restrictive slots at airports will make the A380 prove the right choice long term is one that is hard to argue with, if slots are restricted then 500 pax per slot vs 250 or 300 on the smaller planes, it’s hard to see volume not coming out on top in the long run.

Aviation Buff

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19 Jan 2018

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This is very good for inbound and outbound Adelaide passengers! The Emirates A380 is an infinitely more comfortable aircraft to fly (in economy) than their B777ER. This is based on having flown on both of these Emirates aircraft types many times in the last five years. Adelaide Airport Ltd will almost certainly make the required changes to enable multiple-level boarding, because it is good future business for them. No doubt the Australian Government will also make appropriate changes for border force control, as well, to enable the smooth traffic flow of passengers.

Alexandmarian

Alexandmarian

31 Jan 2018

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I live in Scotland and fly out of Glasgow. Are there any thoughts for the A380 taking over from the 777.

Polbathic

Polbathic

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15 Jul 2016

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The Adelaide runway certainly can handle a fully laden A380, we have had them on test and diverted flights. The international gates are marked up for A380s, but do indeed only have single airbridges. Airlines with the right attitude and with direct flights to the right destinations have been rewarded with loyalty from ADL pax. Maybe EK could consider ADL-BKK-(DXB-Europe(?)) thus filling a need for direct flights to Thailand.

aniljak

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15 Sep 2012

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Adelaide can take A380s on a diversion but they then fly on to an Australian city. Can a fully loaded a380 depart Adelaide for Dubai on extremely hot days?

Sema4beach

Sema4beach

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09 Dec 2013

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If the A380 Is on the Cards for Adelaide! Easy! Simple, The Airport Authority Has to Lift its Game and Facilitate it With New Infrastructure, Ain't Rocket Science! .... Also Change the Ridiculous Curfew! Nothing Personal Just Business! @Emirates

visionaire

visionaire

12 Apr 2017

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Does anyone know when this might happen? I've got a BNE-DXB flight in J in Sep currently on a 777-200 and I'm wondering if it's worth trying to change it to the A380 flight, or wait and hope I might be lucky and either get a refurbished 777 or it might change to an A380 anyway?

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