Australian ‘vaccination passport’ coming to Apple Wallet

The smartphone app will store COVID-19 test results and vaccination records as Australia gears up to reopen its borders.

By David Flynn, July 22 2021
Australian ‘vaccination passport’ coming to Apple Wallet

Australians could be carrying a internationally-recognised 'vaccination passport' on their smartphones within months, with the potential to unlock quarantine-free travel to Covid-safe countries.

"We already have vaccine certificates (in Australia)," Prime Minister Scott Morrison remarked at a press conference yesterday, "and this month we expect them to be in a form that can be dropped into Apple Wallets, things of that nature."

"Later in the year, about October we estimate, we will have a vaccination certificate that will be able to be... internationally recognised to facilitate when people are moving out of the country and into the country, being able to recognise others' certificates."

"That is something that has been a common feature of the conversations I have been having with other leaders."

As reported earlier this month, the Australian government has set its sights on a 'digital health' smartphone app to help restart international travel by storing digital vaccination certificates along with the results of COVID-19 tests.

According to a recent Request for Tender issued by the Australian Digital Health Agency, the app is intended to be available for both Apple iPhone and Google Android devices before December 2021.

It would connect to the government's My Health Record system to provide real-time access to not only COVID-19 vaccination and test data but other immunisations such as against yellow fever, alerts on allergies, and organ donation status.

In addition, a critical requirement of the "digital health mobile channel" project is that it can tap into external systems, which could open the path for interaction with national health databases of other countries.

This would not only allow for reciprocal recognition of vaccination certificates issued overseas, as well as ensure that travellers meet a country's conditions of entry such as pre-departure COVID tests.

Traffic light approach

According to Travel Daily, which first reported the tender, "the documents specify that the mobile application will display an animated tick (e.g. red, amber, green) to indicate the user's status, as well as 'multiple authenticity and anti-fraud measures'."

The Australian government has previously been in discussion with the International Air Transport Association on potentially adopting its Travel Pass digital health app and platform, which has already been embraced by Singapore and dozens of airlines.

Under the government's four-stage "pathway out of COVID-19", returning vaccinated travellers could initially swap 14-day hotel quarantine for  seven days of home isolation, while 2022 would see the extension of quarantine-free travel bubbles along with  lifting "all restrictions on outbound travel for vaccinated persons."

The ADHA's tender follows its awarding this week of a contract to Deloitte Consulting to develop "the Health Information Gateway, a pivotal piece of national digital health enabling technology that provides a secure and scalable platform for exchanging and accessing health information, including priority areas such as vaccinations and aged care data."

The gateway is described as the first step in "the modernisation of the national digital health infrastructure."

"A connected healthcare system is at the heart of the National Digital Health Strategy, and while our national digital health infrastructure has already delivered significant benefits for Australians, it is now time to modernise and unlock the potential that new technologies offer," says Australian Digital Health Agency CEO Amanda Cattermole.

David

David Flynn is the Editor-in-Chief of Executive Traveller and a bit of a travel tragic with a weakness for good coffee, shopping and lychee martinis.

21 Jul 2020

Total posts 7

I have a yellow fever certificate but it's just a physical card. I don't believe it's in any government system. 

Qantas

22 Oct 2012

Total posts 319

If the registered provider of your yellow fever vaccine is in Australia you can ask them to enter it into the Australian Immunisation Register.  

If the provider of any vaccine is overseas then you can request they provide you with documentation of your vaccine, and give that document to an Australian vaccine provider for them to enter it into the Register.

Singapore Airlines - KrisFlyer

02 Dec 2016

Total posts 47

"Looking", "planning", "discussing"...anything but actually doing something...all talk no action . More like reopening in 2023 instead (And don't forget the lockdown happy premiers when someone sneezes)

Well there's some action, based on this request to tender. I agree that it would have been great for the government to do this a year ago or even at the start of the year but you know what they say, if the best time to do something was in the past, the second-best time to do something is today. And you gotta start somewhere, sometime.

AJW
AJW

16 Nov 2011

Total posts 580

Not much will be done to reopen international borders until after the next federal election which could be a year away. 

Until then then you are right. It will all be talk or trials involving next to no one. Just to be seen to be doing something. 

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

16 Jan 2018

Total posts 58

I cannot agree more. Though I think the politicians will probably start rolling out all the digital vaccine certificates and start opening up the international border more significantly just right before election. The savior finally delivers its promise. Wouldn't that be grand?

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

10 May 2016

Total posts 6

COVID app 2.0. Should be a success. 

05 May 2016

Total posts 616

This app should have been made earlier and made available now, not waiting till the end of the year.

We need to start living with the virus and treating it like a bad flu.

20 Oct 2015

Total posts 248

I honestly don't understand why they can't just adopt the Travel Pass app right now just to get things moving. But I suppose it's better to do it once and do it right, well that's the theory anyway!

Qantas

19 Apr 2012

Total posts 1429

Myiy it is already there. The Medicare app has the vaccination history for all vaccines just download it and see mine is there for the past few years. This is a smoke and mirrors rebadging of what is there.

Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards

24 Aug 2020

Total posts 13

I wonder if given that the Astra Zeneca vaccine isn't approved (right now) in the USA if having had that vaccine you won't be recognised as "vaccinated" for travel to the USA.

I think a working Vaccine App will be the way forward for international travel whether it's right or not.

24 Aug 2011

Total posts 1217

That'd be a brave move given a huge percentage of both UK and Germany are vaccinated with A-Z.  

Air Canada - Aeroplan

28 Feb 2015

Total posts 120

Don't count on it. Canadians vaccinated with AZ who bought tickets to the Springsteen concert in NYC found themselves barred because they'd had an unauthorised vaccine. That's one big venue, of course, but it doesn't bode well for the bigger picture.

20 Oct 2015

Total posts 248

This is the clearest sign yet that vaccination and COVID tests will be the way forward for travel, so bring it on, the sooner all this is sorted the sooner we can get out of this mess and get back to travelling overseas and putting the 'lost years' of 2020-2021 behind us.

05 Oct 2017

Total posts 526

I don't think so. There are too many implementation issues for this to become practical moving forward; some governments refuse to share medical data and even apps or results can be forged.

Travel will never return to the good old days if there is layer upon layer of bureaucracy attached to it.

Covid testing will only work if it's free, non-invasive (such as a spit or swab test) and returns instantaneous results, performed at the border. Any other method such as PCR testing is impractical, cumbersome and serves to discourage travel.

Vaccination is not a clear way out either. They simply aren't as effective as claimed, none are approved (they're all being used under emergency use authorisations) and one has to think logically here: a pandemic doesn't last forever. The worst pandemics last 2-3 years. The Spanish flu being a classic example. Once it's over, it's over for good. At that point we can go back to the 2019 normal.

The only reason why we might not, is because vested interests and power hungry governments and corporations have other plans.

Besides, presumably by this time next year, most of the world will have achieved "herd immunity". Previous predictions might have suggested poor countries like Cambodia won't achieve this for several more years, but as of right now, 45% of the target population has been fully vaccinated, a far higher percentage than Australia, a much richer country. I think by this time next year the majority of the world will have achieved this milestone.

I'm remaining cautiously optimistic, but at some point, whether it's in a year from now or perhaps 2023, we should start to see the return of normal travel.

KW72 Banned
KW72 Banned

17 Jun 2020

Total posts 235

Given their success with the Covid Safe app and vaccine rollout, would not trust this mob to run a bath. 

Bunch of incompetent f’wits leaving Australians imprisoned indefinitely. 

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

23 Apr 2019

Total posts 2

The App will finally work once Australia vaccinates everyone in 2034 at this rate.

08 Sep 2018

Total posts 7

If we do not want to be guinea pigs to an long term unproven product and keep bureaucrats breeding, we will be forced to stay in Australia.

Summarized: Any medical procedure or therapy that you don’t want to participate in, you have the full, free, and unprejudiced right to refuse. Period. 

Go back and read Article 6, Sections 1 and 3, of the Nuremberg Code for yourselves. 

Don’t take anyone else’s word for it. Not even mine. Be sure. And make good use of the information if anyone comes to your door with a needle in hand.

05 Oct 2017

Total posts 526

My hunch is that this vaccination passport is a gimmick to coerce people into getting vaccinated. It won't ever take off. Many governments refuse to share confidential medical information and it's mostly airlines, rather than governments, that have been pushing forward with this plan.

Results can be forged so even if it's electronic form, there is no guarantee the person holding the app will have actually been vaccinated or tested.

I think at some point, which may be hard to see now but it will happen, all of these barriers will come down and normal travel will resume. Of course, that will only happen once enough people have been coerced into taking these products. I certainly won't be one of them, but it will be easy to reach the 70% "herd immunity" target of adults aged 18+ in most countries.

We'll just have to sit back and relax, because there won't be anything resembling normal travel resuming before around this time next year (or only very limited travel between regions).

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

08 Dec 2014

Total posts 51

No one is trying to force anyone to get vaccinated.  Of course you have the choice whether to have it or not.  However, all choices have consequences and choosing not to get a Covid-19 vaccination may well mean that you are also choosing not to travel overseas.

05 Oct 2017

Total posts 526

Ozshanel, there is plenty of coercion going on. Either you're choosing to remain ignorant or are simply ignoring the evidence around you. In some countries, vaccination is mandatory (or about to be) or leaders are threatening their citizens to get the vaccine. Look at what the Filipino President, Duterte said recently in a nationwide address.

As stated, vaccinations aren't the key to resuming international travel. You'll see. This won't last forever. As it stands, getting vaccinated doesn't get you out of other obligations nor does it return any freedoms to you.

Want to visit Phuket, Thailand? Aside from being vaccinated, you need to take 4 tests - one pre-departure, one on arrival and 2 more during your stay. You'll also be tracked and hospitalized in case you test positive, even if you display no symptoms. During the initial arrival phase, you will be taken to your hotel and be required to stay in your room until the results come back as negative, which may take up to 24 hours. You aren't allowed to rent a car and drive there yourself - the hotel must take you. You must also return to your room every night and be cared for by a "handler".

As long as this "pandemic" rages, this is the sort of thing that awaits travellers, vaccinated or not.

Post-pandemic, I can't see much of this lasting, other than possibly increased surveillance which may include thermal screening areas at airports and border crossings (something China has been doing continuously since SARS in 2003).

Now if for whatever reason it did last, you can be assured that we're never going back to any semblance of normal travel again. It's either - remove the restrictions or keep them in place specifically to make travel as cumbersome and unpleasant as possible.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

02 Sep 2018

Total posts 153

Tests like that are only necessary when the visiting country is not well vaccinated hence why vaccination is a global effort if we want to travel anywhere anytime soon. Even if you are vaccinated, you can still be positive with COVID bringing severe consequences to those unvaccinated. Of course if the majority of people are vaccinated (willingly of course), then this wouldn't be a problem and travel can resume as normal. 

Singapore Airlines - KrisFlyer

12 Apr 2017

Total posts 207

The virus will last, it's here for generations. Hopefully the more the northern hemisphere countries open the quicker the 'closed' countries will realise they are being left behind. At the very least it's good to see the trial in SA of vaccinated travellers being allowed to leave even if they still have to quarantine at home on return.

24 Aug 2011

Total posts 1217

Seeing the rubbish comments already appearing on this thread, I see why David etc have removed the ability to comment on nearly all of their Covid related articles.

Singapore Airlines - KrisFlyer

12 Apr 2017

Total posts 207

By rubbish, I guess you mean anything you don't agree with?

15 Aug 2018

Total posts 25

Should have been done months ago. 

Thai Airways International - Royal Orchid Plus

15 Jan 2013

Total posts 461

I am more than happy with my yellow vaccine card.why should I spend $100 on a phone just for apps my existing cheapie does not have.

08 Jul 2021

Total posts 1

Spot on @TheFreqFlyer ... At last someone speaking common sense. I don't see how this will work for widespread international travel. As you said, pandemics don't last forever, this will become an endemic seasonal respiratory illness. I didn't hear of mandatory flu vaccinations required for travel in previous severe influenza outbreaks. Once there is a sufficient herd immunity, things should be back to "normal" hopefully. 

Again, this notion in Australia of having zero COVID deaths at any cost is pie in the sky stuff. If we're going to do that, may as well aim for no flu deaths etc. You get the picture 

Singapore Airlines - KrisFlyer

12 Apr 2017

Total posts 207

Even Dan was saying that once everyone has been offered the vaccine "the rules will change" and that suggests lockdowns and borders restrictions will stop. Let's hope that's by December at the latest!

AT
AT

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

14 Sep 2012

Total posts 382

My CV immunisation certificate issued by the Australian Government is already uploaded into my Medicare profile which I can retrieve on my phone, so why do I now need another APP for this? And while we're on the point, why no urgency of an immunisation APP until now for all the other travel vaccines that we've had to have (and for good reason)  for yellow fever, polio, Hep A, typhoid, Hep B which are all documented in my yellow 'International Certificate of Vaccination or Prophylaxis'  by International Health Regulations 2005 (written in both English & French).

24 Aug 2011

Total posts 1217

The issue is whatever international vaccine passport has to be recognised globally.  MyGov does not have the requisite security built-in that it can be easily shared between countries.  The government has issued a tender for a new scheme that will interact with the MyGov system to retrieve the data but present it globally with a more secure BlockChain based product.  

XWu
XWu

09 May 2020

Total posts 574

I know Australia have one of the highest phone ownership but it doesn't mean every one have a recent smart phone and no doubt the IT people in their infinite wisdom will only tailor to more recent operating system for security purposes. 

Some people would say it would be more secure than paper certificate but it does not take much for some year 11 work experience kid to reverse engineering an app to look and feel like the actual app except to put in some fake certificate. 

I am all for IT stuff but I much prefer a physical card which I can stick to my passport via a cover thank you very much

05 Oct 2017

Total posts 526

Yep, very well said XWu. I've been saying the same thing for months now - the whole app thing won't fly - anyone can hack it. It's far from foolproof.

Qantas

19 Apr 2012

Total posts 1429

Freq the app is there on your Medicare record which can be down loaded or have it on the phone. The app thing has already ‘flown’ my vaccination record goes back to 2018. 

05 Oct 2017

Total posts 526

Patrick - that's an Australian government database. It can still be hacked into, or forged etc. (especially if this is to be used overseas, no one would know) and so far hasn't been needed for international travel. The next question is - will the Australian government share private health data with foreign governments, airlines etc.?

Not sure the Australian public would be happy about that and already China and the United States have ruled out this possibility. Since they have far greater populations and political influence, I think you can tell where this is going.

Qantas

19 Apr 2012

Total posts 1429

Freq my colleagues in India are having it linked to their passport, so when the passport is swiped the vaccination record pops up.

24 Aug 2011

Total posts 1217

Yes, but that is highly susceptible to fraudulent copying so may not be accepted globally.  You surely want a system that enables you to quickly pass international borders not spend hours why border agents check the legitimacy of your card.

11 Jul 2017

Total posts 5

I wonder if this is going to be used as a tool to effective force Australians into My Health Record or if it will just use data from the Australian Immunization Register? They are not the same thing and using My Health Record has significant additional legal and privacy implications which should not be required.

It also seems likely that Australians will be significantly disadvantaged if we go with a "home grown" app for this. An internationally accepted solution is required from the start.

There is also a very significant equity issue when vaccines are not currently being offered to most under 40s which needs to be addressed first.

24 Aug 2011

Total posts 1217

As I understand it, the international system will access the data held in the immunisation register but it won't be the same system.  It will be a new Blockchain based product with a much higher level of security which would be accepted by all western nations and very hard to manipulate illegally. 

Like all sorts of things, participation is voluntary.  You could choose not to have a vaccination or an electronic vaccination record but you need to accept that this will probably have consequences with other countries denying you clear passage across their borders, insurers denying you travel insurance coverage and the requirement for up to 14 days quarantine when you return to Australia.  These may be consequences you are happy to accept and good luck if that is your choice.  

Your comment about under 40s is hardly relevant to international borders given no one in Australia can currently cross these borders at will and it is impossible that this will change before the vaccination program has made vaccines available to everyone who wants them.

Di
Di

Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards

16 Dec 2015

Total posts 13

I am fully vaccinated and have the dates of both jabs and the type (AZ in my case) listed on the Medicare Express app.
There's a full Immunisation History statement (including flu and other vaccinations) and a separate COVID-19 digital certificate.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

22 Nov 2019

Total posts 87

until we stop mass 'gatherings' kissing and hugging and eating food with our hands, I am sorry people, buy we aint travelling anywhere. in my humble opinion airlines will not survive much more, so much scaling down and i cannot see it regenerating with trigger happy hillsong at the helm

Singapore Airlines - KrisFlyer

12 Apr 2017

Total posts 207

I have travelled overseas recently. So travel is happening. Watch how 'normal' behaviour returns so quickly in the US and the UK over the last few weeks. Check out the music event in St Kilda recently in Victoria. Normality will return very quickly.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

15 Aug 2014

Total posts 2

Not sure why this is needed I down loaded the Medicare Express Plus App and already have a digital covid vaccination certificate.

Di
Di

Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards

16 Dec 2015

Total posts 13

I wondered that too. I also have that app and certificate - very useful. :)

11 Jul 2017

Total posts 5

Yes, exactly, we already have the immunization history in the Medicare app. An international solution is required but the existing one will do for domestic purposes.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

09 Jul 2021

Total posts 1

I can tell you with 100% certainty, there is no intention for this particular app to integrate with the rest of the world's "Vaccine Travel Pass" deployment …. because that would make sense. 

Singapore Airlines - KrisFlyer

12 Apr 2017

Total posts 207

Everyone is missing the point. Any talk about tests, passports and 'new normals' are all delaying tactics. Each federal and State politician only has any interest in getting re-elected. Every decision is based on that. Do not kid yourself that all their words and actions such as restrictions and lockdowns are about caring for your health. They are only imposed upon us all because they feel it will win votes.

Etihad - Etihad Guest

22 Dec 2017

Total posts 5

I don't have the time to wait till December 2021, I want to come earlier for a few weeks holidays 🇦🇺.

Singapore Airlines - KrisFlyer

12 Apr 2017

Total posts 207

Just book and go. The government will grant you permission if you are not overly candid on your application or use NZ to escape!

07 May 2020

Total posts 151

Spot on @TheFreqFlyer

07 May 2020

Total posts 151

There are enough Commonwealth Acts to protect you from being forced to divulge your health care data and there are enough Acts to prevent anyone from denying you a service because you refuse to divulge private health data. Even with the Yellow Fever Certificate, no airline or country requires you to show it before you are allowed entry, even if you have come from one of the designated countries of concern. I have arrived back in Australia many times after travelling in these countries of concern and it is only once I arrived on Australian soil that I was asked. So Vax Passports may appear in sporadic ways but I think it is highly unlikely that services coukd be denied because you didn't show it. There is a lit of legislation alteady in place to prevent overbearing governments and organisation from just doing as they please. You will see.

11 Jul 2017

Total posts 5

Agree with @TheFreqFlyer, while a Vaccine Passport is inevitable there are numerous serious issues with government databases and a sharing data with other governments. While the Medicare app is great for proving vaccination status domestically, a vaccine passport for overseas travel which requires or integrates with My Health Record would be totally unacceptable. Even when various legislative protections have been put in place, the track record of governments designing and securing systems properly, and keeping their promises is not good at all - the protections usually gradually get watered down as other agencies seek access to the data for other purposes. Even if organizations are prevented from using your healthcare information for other purposes and cannot deny you a service on that basis, your healthcare info is not off-limits to the courts, not just in terrorism-related or serious criminal matters but others such as family law matters too. This is just one example of how the legislation and promises around My Health Record are seriously flawed. As long as having the vaccine passport does not force Australians into My Health Record - all good.

An international vaccine passport which can prove vaccination status somehow tied to a passport, but has no other links to any healthcare information is likely to be more acceptable.

07 May 2020

Total posts 151

@edward999...All good but perfect for forgery. Even the much hailed Israeli government has abandoned their app. Most likely countries and companies will just demand a negative covid test, regardless of what your app says about health care status. I already see this in Europe. I recently arranged for one of my UK customers to travel from London to Athens to appear on a cruise. The requirement was that he be fully vacinated which he was. But during his journey to get to the port nobody asked him ever for his vax status. They only wanted to see his negative covid test certificate. If you think about it being vaxxed would never have excused him from a positive covid test. He would have been denied regardless. Yes I know, Australia is starved of any information about what is really going on in the northern hemisphere. Too many politicians here only interested in their own narrative for their own survival. It seems to me like in the Dark Ages living DownUnder.

Qantas

19 Apr 2012

Total posts 1429

GoRobin I think we agree for once. A vaccination only means you will be less sick and less infectious both of which are good things but they need to be with negative tests to reduce the risk further to unvaccinated people you may come across.

11 Jul 2017

Total posts 5

The comment "Australia is starved of any information about what is really going on in the northern hemisphere" is absolutely true cannot be overstated enough in terms of a lot of things related to COVID in Australia as well. Australia will no doubt be forced to follow the northern hemisphere's lead, I just hope that our government is watching very closely and taking note, not leaving Australia even further behind.

The forgery issue is real. One alternative which surely is also being considered is integrating the vaccination status with e-Passports for international travel? To me that seems to be the most logical as there is already a system in place.

I do expect at least within Australia (and for arrivals) that a negative test won't be enough - although I know it is already being accepted widely in Europe as an alternative - the potential long incubation time has been treated a lot more cautiously in Aus. Whether the negative test is good enough with wider vaccination coverage is likely to be separately debated.

The US has also apparently already been requiring proof of vaccination for some activities, which creates even more complications as the requirements are likely to differ between states, and there's the further issue of AZ not currently being TGA approved (as mentioned above on this thread).

05 Oct 2017

Total posts 526

In a recent interview, which I watched (I think it was Channel 9) regarding the 4 steps to re-opening, the PM indicated that there will be two systems operating concurrently going forward. Vaccinated individuals may eventually be allowed to travel freely into/out of the country without showing a Covid test result, whereas the unvaccinated will need to present a negative test result.

I don't see either one being a travel requirement into the distant future, this is more about where things are likely to stand once borders initially re-open and will probably depend a lot on where the traveller is coming from in terms of risk (low, medium or high).

Unfortunately, New Zealand now requires a negative test result to fly as part of the Australia-New Zealand travel bubble, which is expensive, cumbersome and will serve to dissuade travellers, particularly leisure travellers, from going. However, I think it's quite possible that under the current pandemic rules, this requirement could change again whereby no test is required, once Australian states have stopped recording community transmissions (or very few, say 5-10 a day or less throughout the whole country) for a period of at least 2 weeks.

This is exactly what Turkey did some time ago. Initially, testing was required for all (or nearly all) foreign arrivals, but several countries have since been put on the "green list" and thus not requiring testing to be allowed to enter the country. Australia is on this green list, due to low levels of community transmission.

The travel situation is fluid and continues to evolve almost daily.

XWu
XWu

09 May 2020

Total posts 574

@edward999

I believe you meant to say AZ is currently not FDA approved for emergency use; whereas AZ is approved for normal use in Australia by our TGA (ie not under emergency authorisation). AZ appears to be eligible for application for emergency use in the US by FDA but I think they announced they intend to apply for full normal use rather than emergency. Many of the US states will be likely to continue to use Pfizer and Moderna so AZ realised they lost any advantage in getting emergency use. I suspect they still want to get FDA approval (but for normal use) as many other countries take their cues from the FDA and if they are FDA approved for the US, then many other countries more like to follow suit.

Any country who want to discriminate travellers who had WHO approved vaccine but the types are the Chinese vaccine (and the Russia and Indian vaccines) would do so at their peril since at least half the world do not have access to Pfizer/Moderna/AZ/J&J vaccine due to cost, availability and distribution difficulties so it is inherently unfair.

More importantly the vast majority of China, South Asian continent and Africa will be vaccinated by Chinese or Indian vaccine, and they are the world sources of big spending tourists, cheaper professionals and skilled migrants so not recognising the Chinese or Indian vaccines is akin to keeping borders closed to these countries. 

Qantas

19 Apr 2012

Total posts 1429

XWu AZ is an Indian produced vaccine. The largest AZ factory is in India. So not recognising Indian vaccines is not recognising AZ

11 Jul 2017

Total posts 5

Yes FDA is what was meant, although I saw some references earlier to some issues with AZ in the US earlier, it would appear that at least one more recent article mentions New York amending the list to include WHO approved vaccines, so hopefully sensibility will prevail.

It should be noted in Europe there are already issues with lack of recognition of Sinovac, Sinopharm and even the Indian-manufactured AZ (Covishield).

25 Jun 2021

Total posts 31

I think whats sad is even with people vaccinated you are still treated as if you were not.  Fact here is people are not dying in the streets, and hospitals over run, a very very small % have COVID yet out of that only a few of died from it in the grans scheme of things. Look at the 4000 or so in hotel Quarantine in QLD I think last time I looked 8 had COVID maybe less. Of those 10's of 1000's tested in these past weeks how many had COVID again more or less none. The wider issue is the government cant back down from this and say Hey lets just get on with life, they would look well stupid, so the agenda is COVID this COVID that. QANTAS said some months ago no travel with us without a vaccine. Is that Law in AU no way no bill has been passed in Australia stating its the Law to have a vaccine if traveling, now QANTAS could say its mandatory to have one to travel with them, but I dont think that would last. So we have the issue of will it become Law or just Mandatory? I dont think we really know for sure. But we cant keep vaccinated people locked up. 


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