Qantas to launch high-speed international WiFi by 2021

By David Flynn, June 4 2018

Qantas plans to offer inflight WiFi on its overseas flights by 2021 using the same high-speed technology as its domestic jets.

The broadband satellite system is expected to appear on the ultra-long range Airbus or Boeing 'Project Sunrise' jets which will fly non-stop from Sydney and Melbourne to London and New York – with those 18-20 hour marathons being ideally suited to a Netflix binge-fest.

But why the wait? The current international satellite technology simply isn’t good enough, says Qantas CEO Alan Joyce, because it runs on the older and slower Ku band compared to the newer, zippier Ka band.

"The (Ku band) product is terrible, we think, and we've tried it” Joyce said on the sidelines of the IATA aviation summit in Sydney today.

"You can't have everybody in the aircraft (online at once) and you certainly can't have everybody streaming" due to the relatively narrow satellite bandwidth which has to be shared across all passengers.

However, an international network of superspeed Ka band satellites is just around the corner in the shape of the ViaSat-3 system, which will be launched from 2019 and operated by the same satellite technology partner as Qantas' domestic WiFi system.

The constellation will consist of three satellites will be launched, each taking a different part of the globe under its wing.

"Our region is the last to be covered and we're thinking probably (by) 2020-2021, perfect for Project Sunrise," Joyce forecasts. "Those aircraft will come, we believe, with high-speed Ka which everybody can have access to."

Qantas chose not to fit its international fleet with Ku band kit today because "we don’t want a sub-standard product," Joyce said, and then once the ViaSat-3 birds were in the air "we'd have to rip it out and put on new antennas (and) new equipment."

Qantas currently provides fast and free WiFi on its over half of its workhorse Boeing 737 fleet, with a dozen domestic Airbus A330s to follow from later this month.

Travellers are enjoying speeds of 10-15Mbps, which is proving more than sufficient for streaming HD video content above the clouds.

Read the Australian Business Traveller review of Qantas WiFi

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David Flynn is the Editor-in-Chief of Executive Traveller and a bit of a travel tragic with a weakness for good coffee, shopping and lychee martinis.

henri9

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24 Apr 2018

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Given that you can already store loads of streaming content offline, and the airline also has IFE, should the in flight WiFi not be mostly aimed at staying touch or sending fairly light documents?

henrus

henrus

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23 Oct 2013

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Exactly right at this stage. In the future, 5 or so years away we might start to see streaming on a plane but currently, the bandwidth, especially over oceans, isn't there.

Netflix for example already has a local cache platform called "Netflix Open Connect". ISP's install Netflix hard drives and servers within their networks to avoid having to use more expensive transit routes to provide the same episode to each customer.

In theory, Airlines like Qantas should be working with Netflix and other streaming services to make it small and light enough to install on each aircraft similar to what ISP's have done on the ground.

Currently, satellite bandwidth is paid for by Mbps so you'd think every less stream would be better for both the airlines and the other passenger who aren't streaming.

moa999

moa999

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02 Jul 2011

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On many airlines at the moment (eg Emirates) you can barely open a webpage, let alone stream a movie.

Think it's a reasonable decision to wait.

I wonder though if they pre-wired the 787s for internal Wifi, even if the external antenna has to wait

mviy

mviy

05 May 2016

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The thing is though that airlines spending the kind of money they'd need to would want to not do it again for a long, long time.


If QF put in the old technology now and didn't put the new technology in in a timely manner they'd be in a bad position against competitors who did.

kimshep

kimshep

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11 Oct 2014

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… sort of like the 'bad' position they are in now, with US competitors having WiFi and QF having none?

monoccular

monoccular

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06 Dec 2017

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Sounds like spin to me

They (allegedly) already have WiFi on 737s - I fly several times a month and have seen it once.

moa999

moa999

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02 Jul 2011

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Which uses the relatively new NBN SkyMuster Ka band satellites which are focussed on the Australian landmass.

 

Most of Qantas's international routes (particularly to US and Europe) fly over oceans - and in general satellites aren't focussed on oceans.

ChrisCh

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Willhillbill

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04 Jun 2018

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You have to love the Qantas propaganda. Years behind other airlines and they spew out this rubbish to justify it.

UpUpAndAway

UpUpAndAway

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11 Jul 2014

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I really haven’t seen any airline do good (not great) wi-fi, easier just to have pre downloaded data and movies

RickBlain

RickBlain

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21 Jul 2014

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I use the Wi-Fi on Japan airlines several times a year and it works fine for what I need: email, web browsing etc. I don't need to stream anything, whatever I need is either already on screen or already in my laptop. The Wi-Fi on JAL works so well, with only the occasional drop out due to being in remote areas (although those dropouts can last for 15 or 20 minutes which might infuriating streaming customers) and although I now understand from Mr Joyce that JAL will have to spend a lot refitting their aircraft in three or four years time, from my point of view I will have had three or four years of great in their browsing experience.

ChickenorBeef

ChickenorBeef

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21 Jun 2017

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More justification why I’m letting my platinum one lapse and switching airlines. 17 hours to London with no ability to email is rubbish. There has to be a reasonable middle ground where people can use wifi to connect on email for example without having to wait until 2021!! The planes are packed full of decent movies or as everyone comments, bring your own.

obi

obi

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17 Mar 2017

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Oh the irony! Joyce reckons he doesn't want a sub-standard product in relation to onboard WIFI, yet he doesn't seem to mind being sub-standard with most of his other hard and soft products on board! As a result of a recent article on China Airlines in this publication, I'm flying with them on 18 June return to LGW in business class. They recently emailed me and offered me totally free WIFI for the entire journey, and according to others, their WIFI is pretty good. But is Joyce really serious that QF pax have to wait another three years to have onboard WIFI - under the guise of current offerings not being good enough. As usual, Qantas is well behind the 8-ball again, and they dress it up as something else.

kimshep

kimshep

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11 Oct 2014

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Yes OBI, the Joyce comment 'we've tried it before' is sort of laughable, in context. If I recall correctly, that would have been the one A380-800 fitted in 2012 (used on routes to the USA) with a short period of time as a free service and then bumped up to a horrendously chargeable one that customers routinely eschewed in droves due to cost. It's easy to go from 'worst to first' but a real challenge to go from innovative to worst.

It is valid to cite 'experience' (provided it is current or recent) - quite another to cite 6 year old experience when the technology changes so quickly.


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