Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 08 Jun 2014
Total posts 308
With so many excellent products out there how poorly competitive is Qantas'? Their a330 product is now as good as the rest of the pack but the a380?
Member since 13 Jul 2012
Total posts 151
Qantas is definitely not the worst.
Air France has A380 business class seats that largely resemble Qantas.
And how about BA? Brrr... Qantas A380 business beats BA hands down.
Member since 08 Aug 2016
Total posts 112
Member since 10 Oct 2013
Total posts 80
i actually prefer EK 777 J seating to the a380 - the a380 are too cocoon like or coffin like for me - and i agree BA a380 far worse than qf a380 even with the seating config
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
Member since 06 Mar 2015
Total posts 218
EK J class seats are woeful.
Very confined and poorly designed with almost the same seat width as economy. There's plenty of other Airlines with vastly better seats to choose from so I give EKI a big miss.
Member since 27 Feb 2015
Total posts 27
Air France hands down is the worst business class product i have ever come across. It is now uncompetitive compared to the rest of the market and even makes Qantas look good.
Have you tried the new AF business product on their 773? excellent flat bed, great food and entertainment and to Europe can sometimesfind aus to SIN on Singapore then sin to cdg on AF for around 5K, great product and great price. Shame about the lounge at CDG that is appalling.
The poor quality QF product in J really limits their appeal to the USA and Europe. I don't want to burn my hard earned FF points for those products, the new A333 is good however.
Really time for QF to upgrade their A380 product, I appreciate that there is talk about changing it to the a333 product but this cannot come soon enough!
Member since 14 Feb 2017
Total posts 77
Any airline that still offers 2-2-2 config with no direct aisle or full flat in J class has to be 20years behind the game.
Member since 16 Jun 2011
Total posts 227
20 years ago we hadn't even got to the angled lie flat beds - you's still be in the recliners. 2-2-2 was pretty much state of the art when the Qantas A380 was introduced.
Member since 23 Feb 2016
Total posts 59
Get your point on 20 years ago. But 10 years ago EK was still operating a 777 MEL-SIN-DBX with 2-3-2 recliners in J and 2-2-2 recliners in F
Member since 12 Jun 2011
Total posts 15
When travelling with someone though, I quite like the 2-2-2 layout of say QR or QF. Plenty of room infront and nice to be next to someone. If stepping oversomeone is such an issue, then choose the middle seats.
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer - Chairmans Lounge
Member since 01 Sep 2011
Total posts 91
Totally agree. EK A380 J seat is a bit cramped and they need a refurb, so many have worn carpet
British Airways - Executive Club
Member since 26 Jul 2012
Total posts 2
BA are the worst, packed in like chickens, sitting backwards, stepping over people and over priced
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