Qantas lounge access when flying Virgin from regional airports

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Grannular

Member since 31 Mar 2014

Total posts 193

I enjoy Ausbt because it is normally an escape from trash posts like this one. This suggestion I am sure would go down better on other sites. I can imagine other websites on how to rort the system where this would be better placed.

mcglynp

Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards

Member since 20 Jan 2016

Total posts 47

Wasn't there a case of a person in China who kept rebooking a ticket just to eat at the lounge, like 300 plus times? I could have sworn it was in the media.


Not sure if it was an urban myth, but the original story had the man booking a first class ticket on China Eastern from Xi'an in 2014, using the free food and drink in the lounge facilities including the restaurant food. He then changed the flight departure to the next day and went home, had one year from booking to use the ticket and managed this 300 times before cancelling for a refund. Apparently the staff knew what he was doing but could do nothing about it.

Scepticalflyer

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 30 Aug 2017

Total posts 12

I enjoy Ausbt because it is normally an escape from trash posts like this one. This suggestion I am sure would go down better on other sites. I can imagine other websites on how to rort the system where this would be better placed.

How about keeping it to fact rather than opinion. Sounds like a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

henrus

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 23 Oct 2013

Total posts 768

So the is obviously getting QF lounge access for free (we've all established that). Here's a couple of questions for everyone and the OP. I'm genuinely interested in people answers to these questions.


1. What if the people started booking cheap JQ tickets like TSV - BNE for $69 (and not refunding them)? Would you consider that unethical if using the lounge but not flying?

2. Would you happily pay a fee if QF offered it to access their regional lounges to other airlines and how much would you pay?

3. Does it make a difference if it's in a place like Townsville where Qantas has effectively blocked VA's lounge from being built?

moa999

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 02 Jul 2011

Total posts 835

My responses.
1. Still unethical. You aren't intending to fly.
2. They don't. QF previously offered 'anytime access' to Plats but dropped this many years ago. Since 2016 QF occasionally offers emails to non-status pax offering access for $49/7000 points for domestic lounges and higher for international, so a third party offer would have to be higher than that
3. No. In any event TSV is a privately owned airport. Don't think QF can stop VA from negotiating with TSV airport to build a new facility for a suitable long-term lease.

I'd also be interested if someone at Qantas HQ has been asked to run a report of pax with regular cancellations of fully refundable tickets.

Theresnormissin

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 14 Oct 2016

Total posts 129

I suspect this individual is trolling the community, or at the least looking for validation.

retread.

Member since 10 Jun 2018

Total posts 1

Your abuse of lounge access and facilities is wrong.

Plain and simply.


There is no justification for this. You DELIBERATELY set out to deceive for your own benefit. I don’t care which airline or company you do this to. It is wrong.

Jedi

Member since 04 May 2018

Total posts 15

Your abuse of lounge access and facilities is wrong.

Plain and simply.


There is no justification for this. You DELIBERATELY set out to deceive for your own benefit. I don’t care which airline or company you do this to. It is wrong.

Just a thought.


Fact:

1. Passenger has a paid ticket and boarding pass.

2. Passenger is using the benefits of that paid ticket.

3. Passenger cancels the ticket as part of the Fare conditions of the ticket purchased.


Morally and ethically questionable ????? Probable


Has the passenger done anything illegal. Doesn't appear so unless there are some legal beagles on here that can prove the patron has. If not then its just personal opinion ism't it whether you agree with what has been done or not.

Last editedby Jedi at Jun 18, 2018, 10:44 AM.

Mjudd

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 14 Dec 2016

Total posts 57

There are easier ways of getting into the lounges than this (paying for a ticket and canceling). Here are some tips:

1. Run up the down escalator (where the concierge cant see you enter).

2. wait near the lounge entry for someone with lounge access and con them into getting you in too.

3. Use old boarding passes.

4. Tell the concierge your Dad is Alan Joyce (note this doesn't work every time, particularly if you are over 30).


Last editedby Mjudd at Jun 19, 2018, 05:27 PM.

Fothamickelburg Banned

Member since 06 Mar 2017

Total posts 3

There are easier ways of getting into the lounges than this (paying for a ticket and canceling). Here are some tips:

1. Run up the down escalator (where the concierge cant see you enter).

2. wait near the lounge entry for someone with lounge access and con them into getting you in too.

3. Use old boarding passes.


Last edited by Mjudd at Jun 19, 2018, 05.07 PM.


I concur. Point #1 works every time on QF at PER.


I'd also like to add a 4th option - an image of a platinum member's card saved on your smartphone generally works for VA (just flash it to the staff as you stroll in)

Last editedby Fothamickelburg at Jun 19, 2018, 06:08 PM.

Mjudd

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 14 Dec 2016

Total posts 57

There are easier ways of getting into the lounges than this (paying for a ticket and canceling). Here are some tips:

1. Run up the down escalator (where the concierge cant see you enter).

2. wait near the lounge entry for someone with lounge access and con them into getting you in too.

3. Use old boarding passes.


Last edited by Mjudd at Jun 19, 2018, 05.07 PM.

I concur. Point #1 works every time on QF at PER.

I'd also like to add a 4th option - an image of a platinum member's card saved on your smartphone generally works for VA (just flash it to the stuff as you stroll in)

Fothamickelburg, you shouldn't detail the exact ports where this is achievable for fear of them rectifying the flaw

gjspectre

Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards

Member since 21 Feb 2017

Total posts 25

There are easier ways of getting into the lounges than this (paying for a ticket and canceling). Here are some tips:

1. Run up the down escalator (where the concierge cant see you enter).

2. wait near the lounge entry for someone with lounge access and con them into getting you in too.

3. Use old boarding passes.


Last edited by Mjudd at Jun 19, 2018, 05.07 PM.

I concur. Point #1 works every time on QF at PER.

I'd also like to add a 4th option - an image of a platinum member's card saved on your smartphone generally works for VA (just flash it to the stuff as you stroll in)

I too concur. also the wheelchair lift at Broome works nicely (or used to before i upgraded to doing the boarding pass trick)

dimi

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 13 Jul 2012

Total posts 150

Looks very clear that you are not a fan of Qantas. Amazed that one can even think of doing what you do.

Absolutely no qualms about the odd benefit from such a corporate bully. They have sucked enough out of me over the years and I still retain platinum status.


What you are doing is simply unethical.

I would not be surprised if the corporate bully discovers who you are, strips you of your Platinum status and bans you from ever booking another ticket with them.

I don’t think anyone on this forum will feel particularly bad for you.

Last editedby dimi at Jun 21, 2018, 06:58 PM.

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