Earning Qantas status credits on Emirates flights

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_sdizzle

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Member since 26 Dec 2018

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Hi all, long time lurker first time poster, hoping the brains trust can help.


I’m currently QF Gold and have booked travel on EK metal via the EK website directly. Rationale here being I could get all of the EK Gold benefits via my QF status while continue to accrue status credits and Qantas points to maintain my status for this year. I’ve come all of the way to Europe and was dismayed to see I did not accrue any status credits on my outbound journey whatsoever.

Having been long time Star Alliance Gold and new to the QF Gold world due to a change in work travel arrangements, I had assumed the standard ‘alliance’ rules would apply to the QF/EK arrangement, given multiple instances of successfully doing this across NZ/SQ/UA etc. in the past. Due to these alliance rules, I’ve always leaned towards booking flights directly with the airline of travel as it’s easier to resolve problems when things go wrong (has happened many times for me in the past!).

Do I have any options here? Or am I stuck with not being able to earn anything here at all? Really disappointed if this is the case - I’d have gone out of my way to not fly EK if I’d known I wouldn’t be getting any bang for my buck for this trip given the cost of flights and the websites definitely did not make it easy to foresee this little intricacy.

Thanks in advance for all of your help!

mern2001

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Member since 10 Apr 2013

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Given that you booked with the Emirates site, I presume that all of your flights would have an EK prefix - e.g. EKXX. Because of this, I don't think any flight will qualify for QANTAS status credits. I can understand your thinking - with most alliances, such as One World, you would earn some status credits when you fly with carriers other than QANTAS. The QANTAS Emirates alliance, however, is unusual in that regard. I'm not sure you can do anything to change this now.

drsimon50

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Member since 10 Oct 2013

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it might be an alliance but isnt a true one like one world etc - you can only earn QF status credits if you book EK metal through QF website on QFF - otherwise doesnt count - i might also point out to do this you pay more for the same flight each time i have checked - and hence i book EK directly but am not worried re QFF - so to earn QF you have to book through QF essentially

TJS

Member since 14 Jun 2018

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Correct - Emirates is not part of OneWorld however is a code share partner of Qantas, as such you would have earnt points, however to earn status credits you would have needed to book a the Emirates flight with a QF (OneWorld) flight number (e.g. QF8435 is EK 435 BNE to DXB), which can be done by travel agents and also through the Qantas Website.

James Barker

Member since 13 Sep 2016

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I'm sorry to say that while you get Qantas status privileges on an Emirates flight, you don't get Qantas status credits unless the flight is booked under the QF code. You will earn some Qantas frequent flyer points but at a greatly reduced rate. But if you want those status credits the flight has to be booked and ticketed as QF8xxx instead of the normal EKxxx flight number, for example the Emirates A380 Sydney-Dubai flight EK415 can also be booked as QF8415. If you book it as QF8415 then you will earn the same number of status credits and points as if this was actually a Qantas flight on a Qantas A380. As regards to the alliance, the rules of Qantas-Emirates alliance are different to the OneWorld alliance, where you can earn some Qantas status credits on fellow OneWorld members such as BA, Cathay etc.

lazblue

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kimshep

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@_sdizzle - all is not entirely lost if you are 'mid-trip', which is indicated by your post. You could consider joining the Emirates Skywards program for the return sector of your journey.

Use your QF Gold card to enter the EK lounge(s) and then ask the attendant to change your QF FF nbr on the booking to your new Emirates Skywards membership number. Although you won't be able to retroactively claim status credits / points for the already flown outwards sector (no status credits and the points already credited to QF FF), you will at least be able to claim the return sector(s) on EK into Skywards.


As a direct EK booking, you'll get more mileage points in Skywards than with QF (under an EK flight number) and will also attract EK status credits. It might not be an ideal solution, but is better than getting no status credits at all on this trip.


As has been stated correctly by others above,
- to gain status credits in QF FF when flying EK, always book the QF codeshare flight number. You will then attract maximum mileage points and status credits in QF FF. Booking an EK flight number (via QF) sees no status credits awarded by QF and a reduced level of points.

- if booking via EK's website using an EK flight number, maximum status credits and mileage accrue when you are assigning your Skywards membership number. Using your QF FF membership number on a direct EK booking will not accrue status credits into the QF FF program either.

If you are regularly travelling to Europe via DXB on EK metal for business, you may well be able to slectively amass status credits in both programs, which can be handy for short Skywards reward redemptions within Europe on EK. You still are able to use your QF Gold card for lounge access and may eventually reach Skywards Gold as well.

The other alternative to consider for future bookings if you are flying to Europe via the Middle East regularly, is to book Qatar instead of EK. As a oneworld member, largely all of the issues you have experienced with EK are removed when travelling with a oneworld carrier. You will gain QF FF status credits and mileage points with QF for all oneworld members pretty much automatically..

Last editedby kimshep at Jan 04, 2019, 01:31 PM.

Aidan

Member since 05 Dec 2018

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Note that QR flights earn points & status at a reduced rate.

Andrew Barkery

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Member since 21 Mar 2011

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Some/there are a few EK flight routes will not have a QF code share at all meaning no QF flight number at all.

TheCelt

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Member since 08 Jul 2017

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This partnership is bs for the traveller and seems anti competitive and restrictive for travellers forcing them to purchase dearer tickets with QF flight numbers to accrue status points for the same flight. I was once a loyal QF traveller , no longer. Try Qatar. They sometimes offer double and triple status credits.

ebrabich

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Member since 21 Jun 2017

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I'm not sure what makes this "anti competitive". You still have choices, it's just that they might not be so palatable. Life is all about trade-offs.

patrickk

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Member since 19 Apr 2012

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I'm sorry to say that while you get Qantas status privileges on an Emirates flight, you don't get Qantas status credits unless the flight is booked under the QF code. You will earn some Qantas frequent flyer points but at a greatly reduced rate. But if you want those status credits the flight has to be booked and ticketed as QF8xxx instead of the normal EKxxx flight number, for example the Emirates A380 Sydney-Dubai flight EK415 can also be booked as QF8415. If you book it as QF8415 then you will earn the same number of status credits and points as if this was actually a Qantas flight on a Qantas A380. As regards to the alliance, the rules of Qantas-Emirates alliance are different to the OneWorld alliance, where you can earn some Qantas status credits on fellow OneWorld members such as BA, Cathay etc.

The emphasis is on the ‘some’. A recent flight Canberra to Sydney 45mins earned 20 stat credits while 4 hour HK to Dhaka earned 15SCs.

_sdizzle

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 26 Dec 2018

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Wow thanks everyone for the quick and informative responses. Looks like I’ve been caught out by the hidden shortfalls of the EK/QF ‘alliance’. Really disappointing as I had been pushing for Qantas Platinum this year and now I don’t think it’s going to happen as I’ve lost >300 SCs worth of flying now.


I for one will be adhering to the aforementioned advise of steering clear of EK for future travel as long as I am with Qantas and stick with ‘real’ OneWorld alliance partners. Hopefully everyone can learn from my mistake...

djtech

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Member since 02 Sep 2018

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Wow thanks everyone for the quick and informative responses. Looks like I’ve been caught out by the hidden shortfalls of the EK/QF ‘alliance’. Really disappointing as I had been pushing for Qantas Platinum this year and now I don’t think it’s going to happen as I’ve lost >300 SCs worth of flying now.

I for one will be adhering to the aforementioned advise of steering clear of EK for future travel as long as I am with Qantas and stick with ‘real’ OneWorld alliance partners. Hopefully everyone can learn from my mistake...

Depending on your destinations, Emirates might be the fastest option. Although, I like others recommend Qatar as a very good alternative as long as their destinations work for you.

Red Cee

Member since 15 Feb 2018

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My advice is, book through Qantas with a QF flight number. If they don’t have a Qantas flight number, you don’t qualify for Qantas status credits.

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