Emirates reduces Perth-Dubai flights

By Chris Chamberlin, March 24 2015
Emirates reduces Perth-Dubai flights

Qantas partner Emirates will drop one of its three daily flights between Perth and Dubai from July – a mere two months after the airline commences Airbus A380 services to the mining capital.

On the chopping block: EK423 and its late afternoon departure from Perth, along with EK422 on the return: an overnight flight that touches down just after lunch.

Operated by a Boeing 777 aircraft, passengers travelling on or after July 6 will be funnelled onto either an early morning service from Perth – also on a Boeing 777 – or onto the late evening Emirates Airbus A380 flight, which is unaffected by this change.

Passengers can then fly home to Perth on the A380 to reach the city in time for dinner, or on a Boeing 777 that touches down just after midnight.

The missing link...

However, Perth-based travellers will lose the option to connct from Dubai to London on Qantas flight QF1 – which linked-up perfectly with EK423 – nor can they grab QF2 on the first leg of their journey home from Europe, which paired with EK422.

Instead, Perthites can ride on the Emirates A380 from Perth to Dubai after May 1 (EK421) and can then hop on QF9, another Qantas-operated Airbus A380 service to London Heathrow.

That doesn't work on the return home from London – if passengers choose the Qantas A380 service in QF10, they'll need to choose the Emirates Boeing 777 homeward from Dubai, breaking the link in an otherwise all-A380 journey.

When connecting from Dubai to other European destinations, the removal of the early evening service from Perth also means you'll touch down around noon, rather than in time for breakfast.

A380 on the way

In a statement sent to Australian Business Traveller, Barry Brown, Emirates’ Divisional Senior Vice President Commercial Operations East, said that “in making the decision to suspend EK422/423, Emirates considered the needs and preferred travel patterns of the West Australian travelling public."

“Emirates is committed to Perth passengers and looks forward to being the first airline to bring the state-of-the-art A380 to the city from May,” he added.

As part of the shake-up, Emirates will upgrade its remaining Perth Boeing 777 service from a 777-200LR to a 777-300ER, which has the same number of seats in first class and business class but with room for almost 100 extra travellers in economy.

Emirates' dedicated Perth lounge is also undergoing expansion works to make room for the extra business and first class passengers aboard the airline's Airbus A380 flights, with the superjumbo housing up to 40 more passengers on its upper deck than at the pointy end of the Boeing 777 it replaces.

Also read: Emirates brings Airbus A380 to Perth

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Chris Chamberlin

Chris Chamberlin is the Associate Editor of Executive Traveller, and lives by the motto that a journey of a thousand miles begins not just with a single step, but also a strong latte, a theatre ticket, and later in the day, a good gin and tonic.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

24 Mar 2015

Total posts 1

Qantas needs to allow points upgrades on these DXB-PER flights, as being a QFF member on the West coast we get limited chances to use points for upgrades as there are limited flights internationally on acutal Qantas planes.

Emirates Airlines - Skywards

07 Sep 2012

Total posts 152

It's not QF who are stopping you from using their FF points to upgrade on EK metal. It's EK themselves.

25 Mar 2015

Total posts 31

Can you substantiate your claim please? As far as I know QF points cannot be used for upgrading flights on ANY partner metal, not just EK. Even upgrade requests on QF metal is a lottory (I have had cases that my upgrade request was not successful and I am a QF WP).

As an impartial observer to the thread above, I'll simply link to the following article: Emirates may allow Qantas points for business class upgrades

25 Mar 2015

Total posts 31

The problem with this partnership has been that each of the airlines has picked up bad habits of the other; EK's fuel surcharges have gone through the roof; QF has basically left OneWorld alliance (through "fairer and simpler" earning rates when flying other OneWorld carriers; QF has substantially devalued its frequent flyer program, which EK has then copied; etc, etc. 

And from memory, QF has always charged more points for upgrades than EK. It is just easier for us Aussie to accrue QF points, and therefore there are more Aussies with a stash of QF points than there are with loads of EK Skyward points. So maybe the sheer number of Aussies spending points on upgrades was what prompted EK Chief to think QF does not charge enough points?

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

16 Apr 2013

Total posts 29

Hopefully a third daily per-dxb flight will return in the future on QF metal. Possibly with a 789? Maybe at a similar time a second daily adl - dxb on QF metal?

qantas

10 Oct 2013

Total posts 114

if only QF out of ADL - if only

AJW
AJW

16 Nov 2011

Total posts 566

So with these changes (including the A380 and 777-300's) is there an overall reduction or increase in seating on the route?

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

30 Apr 2014

Total posts 35

Going going gone ... Careful you reap what you sow ... I remember  being in singapore and qantas linked Perth and Melbourne with precise timing and precision ...

Lufthansa - Miles & More

29 Jul 2014

Total posts 185

Is there a huge diffrence in seating is my first question. Secondaly will another city get another service mabye a new pacific city or mabye somewhere new in south america. This may be used to fly the new bali route when that starts correct me if im wrong but I think that starts on the 3rd of july. 

25 Mar 2015

Total posts 31

Economy seating on EK 777 is one of the tighests (10 abreast).  Also in business, EK 777 have "angle" lie flat. 

Economy seating on EK A380 is also 10 abreast (but fueslege width is much more than 777). Business seats on EK 380 are proper lie flat, albeit it does feel a bit cramped as there are so many business seats.

Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards

19 Feb 2014

Total posts 451

DXB-DPS-PER ;)

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

14 May 2014

Total posts 5

Just proves qantas does not care about its perth customers i recently booked flights with emirates and qantas even though the price was the same due to no upgrades avaliable was much better when they flew own metal

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

09 Sep 2013

Total posts 177

Chris - one important thing not mentioned in your article is how do these revised connections affect the layover times in Dubai both ways?  Further, the link you gave re the upgrades using QF points was quite old, was not definitive (too many maybe's) and from many recent comments, there would seem to have been little success for the many wishing to exercise that option.

Regards as always

Frank, I've replied to your first point below. To the second, from the article and the enclosed quotes from Tim Clark, it would be up to Emirates to allow Qantas upgrades on Emirates flights - at the moment, this isn't a possibility.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

09 Sep 2013

Total posts 177

Thanks as usual Chris..

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

21 Aug 2014

Total posts 513

Disclaimer: I am commenting without much knowledge about the state of the mining industry in WA.

I think the reason QF doesn't wanna get it's hands back in Perth is maybe because there is some information only the Australian Government and Qantas know about the true state of the mining in WA. It has been declining pretty bad since China doesn't need it and also since a recession is close (tipped to affect Perth/WA the most) can be the prime reason QF doesn't wanna come back, and competing with others is hard.

Mc
Mc

BA

31 Mar 2014

Total posts 18

 I gave up on EK  several years ago. The EK A380 business seat is cramped as it is only 18.5" wide being only 0.5" wider than EK economy at 18.0". The EK 777 fleet is 2-3-2  abreast and seat width is still only 20.5" (some EK 777-200's are only 18" wide but in fairness these aircraft are probably not used on the PER-DXB route). Also note a large proportion of EK's 777 fleet are angle flat seats not flat bed. As most of the competition offer wider flat bed seats in 2-2-2 or 1-2-1 config I cannot understand why people still use EK business class.

 

NB Seat width is as per seatguru

25 Mar 2015

Total posts 31

I think you'll find EK 777 are 3-4-3 in economy (10 abreast), which is as you wrote very very tight. Even the aisles are so narrow you will be bumped everytime someone passes by if you are sitting in an aisle seat.

OCA
OCA

11 Nov 2014

Total posts 11

Just been bumped off EK422 onto EK424 in July with a pleasant 15 hour 5 min transit time in Dubai. No hotel offer nothing and my wife & I are lucky to be in first class as this is/was our dream holiday! Emirates what a crap airline.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

09 Sep 2013

Total posts 177

 

Thanks OCA - Chris this info may answer my question I posed to you about the important issue of layover times resulting from these changes

Frank, given the size of Emirates' network it really depends on where you're travelling to. As included in the article, easy transits are still possible to London and Greater Europe.

If your concern regards a specific destination, I'd recommend searching for flights from Perth to that city on the Emirates website and seeing what's available on your travel dates.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

14 May 2014

Total posts 5

Hi OCA

Any transit time more than nine hours emirates will put you up

Its called STPC just call reservations will organise over the phone

hope this helps

OCA
OCA

11 Nov 2014

Total posts 11

Thank you I am on the phone just trying to move our flights to EK420 for a A380 home.  :-)  6 hour delay but I get to be on the A380 so I am getting happier.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

14 May 2014

Total posts 5

HI OCA

Thatts great the first class lounge at Dubai is realy good

 

06 Feb 2014

Total posts 120

Geez that Qantas alliance with Emirates just keeps on giving...QF axes their 2 x daily P - Sing flights; Emirates reduces frequencies from 3 to 2. 

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

09 Sep 2013

Total posts 177

Geez maabbot - I would call that cyncism. Wish I had thought of it first..

They'll say there are less flights, but more seats available I presume?


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