COVID-19 vaccine - paid options

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pete sw

Member since 08 May 2020

Total posts 2

Being vaccinated does not open the Australian Borders.

Allowing Private Vaccination at this stage of the Pandemic would be Suicide for any Government world wide allowing that to happen which is exactly what the WHO is referring to.

Richard W

Singapore Airlines - KrisFlyer

Member since 12 Apr 2017

Total posts 26

Originally Posted by pete sw

Being vaccinated does not open the Australian Borders.

Allowing Private Vaccination at this stage of the Pandemic would be Suicide for any Government world wide allowing that to happen which is exactly what the WHO is referring to.

As soon as you are vaccinated, you should be able to leave and enter the country!

SooziQu

Member since 13 May 2017

Total posts 4

Wow. Let me pay because I want to jump the queue to travel... either for business or to see family or just because I can. This just smacks of entitlement. No Tracie, the roll-out schedule is based on age, vulnerability and the necessity for frontline workers first. Put your purse away sit down and wait your turn.

SooziQu

Member since 13 May 2017

Total posts 4

Wow. Let me pay because I want to jump the queue to travel... either for business or to see family or just because I can. This just smacks of entitlement. No Tracie, the roll-out schedule is based on age, vulnerability and the necessity for frontline workers first. Put your purse away sit down and wait your turn.

SooziQu

Member since 13 May 2017

Total posts 4

Originally Posted by Richard W

Originally Posted by Greg E

Originally Posted by Richard W

Originally Posted by Rita Cavanagh

Yes, we should be scared of the virus--just look at the numbers of infections and deaths in the UK and the US, and yes I know that they have bigger populations than we have.

Rita, what are you actually scared of? The average age of death from the virus is older than the average age of death in this country. Headlines are affecting how you view this. 99+% of people who get the virus shrug it off but news agencies like to report the worst of everything which impacts your thinking. You know, life is hard, none gets out alive. Sure, take some simple precautions but don’t cower away thinking the virus will disappear even through vaccination.

The media is reporting the facts. In most countries that actual death toll has underreported deaths linked to Covid-19. If the international borders weren't closed we would have the same mess that they have in the US. Are you seriously saying that what is happening in the US is OK? More Americas killed by Covid-19 in under 12 months than died in World War 2?

The reported deaths from COVID have been over reported not under reported. Look at the deaths in Norway related to taking the vaccine. These people were going to die anyway. They did not die because of the vaccine just as the majority of COVID ‘deaths’ were people who died with it not because of it.

The deaths from Covid in Australia have not been over reported. We adjust our figures as information comes to hand based on whether a death was due to co-morbidities or Covid. Are you referring to overseas or here? If in Australia then you need to research death certificates and see how we list them.

Richard W

Singapore Airlines - KrisFlyer

Member since 12 Apr 2017

Total posts 26

Originally Posted by SooziQu

Originally Posted by Richard W

Originally Posted by Greg E

Originally Posted by Richard W

Originally Posted by Rita Cavanagh

Yes, we should be scared of the virus--just look at the numbers of infections and deaths in the UK and the US, and yes I know that they have bigger populations than we have.

Rita, what are you actually scared of? The average age of death from the virus is older than the average age of death in this country. Headlines are affecting how you view this. 99+% of people who get the virus shrug it off but news agencies like to report the worst of everything which impacts your thinking. You know, life is hard, none gets out alive. Sure, take some simple precautions but don’t cower away thinking the virus will disappear even through vaccination.

The media is reporting the facts. In most countries that actual death toll has underreported deaths linked to Covid-19. If the international borders weren't closed we would have the same mess that they have in the US. Are you seriously saying that what is happening in the US is OK? More Americas killed by Covid-19 in under 12 months than died in World War 2?

The reported deaths from COVID have been over reported not under reported. Look at the deaths in Norway related to taking the vaccine. These people were going to die anyway. They did not die because of the vaccine just as the majority of COVID ‘deaths’ were people who died with it not because of it.

The deaths from Covid in Australia have not been over reported. We adjust our figures as information comes to hand based on whether a death was due to co-morbidities or Covid. Are you referring to overseas or here? If in Australia then you need to research death certificates and see how we list them.

COVID deaths in Australia have been over reported. Only a tiny number died from the virus. The rest would have died regardless. The total daily death toll has not dropped recently, the old people are still dying everyday as normal. It’s the circle of life. Stop worrying about death, it’s going to get all of us.

SooziQu

Member since 13 May 2017

Total posts 4

What a ridiculous statement. Give me your proof that Covid deaths have been over-reported. I've followed the numbers and seen where cases have been adjusted on autopsy or further medical findings. I also know people who have lost loved ones due to Covid. I'm not worrying about death but you are insensitive to minimise other people's sufferings. I think your tin hat is too tight. Or you've drunk too much Kool-aid.

MissBasset

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 31 Aug 2012

Total posts 70

I doubt whether one will be a able to buy a vaccination.

However, if you have the right friends, or are a Liberal Party donor, you should be able to sail to the head of the line without any problems for the vaccine of your choice, free, I imagine.





Greg E

Member since 26 Sep 2020

Total posts 19

Originally Posted by Richard W

Originally Posted by pete sw

Being vaccinated does not open the Australian Borders.

Allowing Private Vaccination at this stage of the Pandemic would be Suicide for any Government world wide allowing that to happen which is exactly what the WHO is referring to.

As soon as you are vaccinated, you should be able to leave and enter the country!

Ah, no. Being vaccinated reduces the chance that you will get sick from the disease. It does not stop you from carrying it or at least there is insufficient evidence to say so. Until your destination has it close to eradicated, you won't be going anywhere except under the current exceptions. Otherwise you have a high risk of bringing it back to Australia.


Last editedby Greg E at Jan 30, 2021, 05:43 PM.

Richard W

Singapore Airlines - KrisFlyer

Member since 12 Apr 2017

Total posts 26

Originally Posted by Greg E

Originally Posted by Richard W

Originally Posted by pete sw

Being vaccinated does not open the Australian Borders.

Allowing Private Vaccination at this stage of the Pandemic would be Suicide for any Government world wide allowing that to happen which is exactly what the WHO is referring to.

As soon as you are vaccinated, you should be able to leave and enter the country!

Ah, no. Being vaccinated reduces the chance that you will get sick from the disease. It does not stop you from carrying it or at least there is insufficient evidence to say so. Until your destination has it close to eradicated, you won't be going anywhere except under the current exceptions.

But the question is should you be able to leave and enter? Of course you should if you are vaccinated! Barely 1% of the world has contracted the virus. Of that 1% who have, 98.5% of them fully recovered. Those that died averaged an age of 83. So yes, we should stop being scared, get the vaccine if necessary and immediately open!

XWu

Member since 09 May 2020

Total posts 64

Not sure how this discussion fell off the top viewed community discussion on the main page, considering the activities and posting over the last 72 hrs but just sharing the latest news that EU just officially commandeered/Shanghai-ed our vaccines supply as I suggested in my earlier post....

Edit oops I meant to say EU has given itself powers to commandeer our supply.

Last editedby XWu at Jan 30, 2021, 05:06 PM.

Greg E

Member since 26 Sep 2020

Total posts 19

Originally Posted by Richard W

Originally Posted by Greg E

Originally Posted by Richard W

Originally Posted by pete sw

Being vaccinated does not open the Australian Borders.

Allowing Private Vaccination at this stage of the Pandemic would be Suicide for any Government world wide allowing that to happen which is exactly what the WHO is referring to.

As soon as you are vaccinated, you should be able to leave and enter the country!

Ah, no. Being vaccinated reduces the chance that you will get sick from the disease. It does not stop you from carrying it or at least there is insufficient evidence to say so. Until your destination has it close to eradicated, you won't be going anywhere except under the current exceptions.

But the question is should you be able to leave and enter? Of course you should if you are vaccinated! Barely 1% of the world has contracted the virus. Of that 1% who have, 98.5% of them fully recovered. Those that died averaged an age of 83. So yes, we should stop being scared, get the vaccine if necessary and immediately open!

I'm glad you're not running the country. Fortunately those who are running the country are taking notice of health experts. For a start your stats are rubbish. Although Australia has one of the best responses in the world to Covid, our death rate is 3.37%, not "barely 1%". In parts of the US as many as 1 in 7 have the virus. But that aside, the reason the number of deaths around the world has been kept down to 2.2 million (plus those not counted) is because of actions like closing borders. You can't argue to remove restrictions and then use statistics that were as a result of those restrictions as justification. Don't you remember the scenes of hospitals being overwhelmed in Italy and now the US. The idea that you can just walk back into Australia without quarantine and run a very high risk of starting another outbreak is pretty selfish. It is not going to happen until the vaccine is broadly rolled out across Australia and destinations and the virus is down to negligible levels. The world is still out there for some time in the future, get over it.

narayansmate

Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards

Member since 29 Oct 2017

Total posts 1

Originally Posted by Richard W

Originally Posted by Rita Cavanagh

Yes, we should be scared of the virus--just look at the numbers of infections and deaths in the UK and the US, and yes I know that they have bigger populations than we have.

Rita, what are you actually scared of? The average age of death from the virus is older than the average age of death in this country. Headlines are affecting how you view this. 99+% of people who get the virus shrug it off but news agencies like to report the worst of everything which impacts your thinking. You know, life is hard, none gets out alive. Sure, take some simple precautions but don’t cower away thinking the virus will disappear even through vaccination.


Amen. I thought I was the only one to concentrate on facts, not hysteria

Greg E

Member since 26 Sep 2020

Total posts 19

Originally Posted by narayansmate

Originally Posted by Richard W

Originally Posted by Rita Cavanagh

Yes, we should be scared of the virus--just look at the numbers of infections and deaths in the UK and the US, and yes I know that they have bigger populations than we have.

Rita, what are you actually scared of? The average age of death from the virus is older than the average age of death in this country. Headlines are affecting how you view this. 99+% of people who get the virus shrug it off but news agencies like to report the worst of everything which impacts your thinking. You know, life is hard, none gets out alive. Sure, take some simple precautions but don’t cower away thinking the virus will disappear even through vaccination.


Amen. I thought I was the only one to concentrate on facts, not hysteria
99+% recover??? The death rate in Australia is 3.37% and there is growing evidence that those who recovered may die prematurely as a result of Covid. So your take on it is "people die, suck it up". Well if we ignore Covid restrictions that have clearly worked in Australia it is inevitable that you or someone you are close to will die prematurely.

Rxm

Jetstar Airways - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 14 Jan 2017

Total posts 12

I doubt any vaccine manufacturers are selling to other than governments and governments are having trouble securing orders. Your chance of securing a private supply you could then import into Australia and then have administer would be zero. You would be better off getting a job in the hotel quarantine system. That you put you in front of the queue.

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