Qantas shifts to daytime flight from London, overnight flights to LAX

The tweaked timetables contain both upsides and downsides for passengers on three of Qantas' flagship routes.

By David Flynn, September 29 2021
Qantas shifts to daytime flight from London, overnight flights to LAX

Qantas is switching up its schedule on the airline's flagship London and Los Angeles routes, resulting in some novel changes for regular passengers on the QF2, QF11 and QF93 flights once international flying resumes from Saturday December 18.

The moves, which in the cases of QF2 and QF11 currently run through to late March 2022, will allow Qantas to make better use of its Boeing 787-9 jets so they spend less time sitting on the ground and more time in the air, while also removing airport charges for having the planes 'parked' for around 12 hours.

However, the tweaked timetables – which specifically impact QF2 from London to Sydney, QF11 from Sydney to Los Angeles and QF93 from Melbourne to Los Angeles – contain both upsides and downsides for travellers.

Get set for the novelty of a morning departure from London on QF2...
Get set for the novelty of a morning departure from London on QF2...

While the QF1 Sydney-Singapore-London service is still wheels up from Sydney at 5pm to reach London at 6.15am, the return leg QF2 will now leave London at 9.50am instead of the long-standing evening departure.

The new morning departure time from London will make a must of wake-up calls and early hotel checkouts, although travellers outside of London may wish to head down the night before and stay at one of the nearby airport hotels.

QF2 passengers will be able to kick-start their morning at Qantas' London Heathrow lounge.
QF2 passengers will be able to kick-start their morning at Qantas' London Heathrow lounge.

The resulting daytime flight of QF2 from London will also pose something of a challenge for travellers as they attempt to reset their body clock ahead of arriving into Singapore at 7am the following day, and – after a 90 minute layover – eventually reach Sydney at 7.25pm.

This also means that travellers from outside Sydney – typically regional centres or even another city such as Canberra – will need an overnight stay in Sydney before catching that final connecting flight home.

Executive Traveller understands that while Qantas is now working through the finer details, its intention is to have its London Heathrow Terminal 3 and Singapore Changi Terminal 1 lounges do an early opening to cater for QF2's new morning schedule – we can picture the Singapore lounge being especially popular for passengers grabbing breakfast and perhaps a quick shower.

After having breakfast in London, enjoy a Hobbit-style 'second breakfast' in Singapore.
After having breakfast in London, enjoy a Hobbit-style 'second breakfast' in Singapore.

(It's also worth noting that Qantas no longer sells just the London-Singapore leg of QF2, which used to allow passengers bound for cities other than Sydney to jump off QF2 when it reached Singapore in the late afternoon and change to a direct Qantas flight to the likes of Melbourne, Brisbane or Perth.)

Similarly, Qantas' QF11 and QF12 flights from Sydney and Melbourne to Los Angeles will now leave in the late evening rather than mid-morning, so that their arrival into LAX dovetails into the evening departure of each flight's return leg.

For QF11, that means leaving Sydney at 10.25pm for a 5pm touchdown at Los Angeles; while QF93 will now depart Melbourne even later, at 11.25pm, to reach LAX at 6.45pm.

The overnight flight to Los Angeles will certainly make it easier to grab some shut-eye on the first part of the journey and still be up to enjoy a little LA nightlife after checking into your hotel.

Normal schedules return in April

At the time of writing, the London-Sydney QF2 and Sydney-Los Angeles QF11 flights revert to their previous timings from the end of March 2022, although Melbourne-Los Angeles QF93 appears to keep its late-night departure for longer. 

Qantas currently has 11 Boeing 787-9s in its fleet, and they'll dominate long-range routes to London and the USA until the return of the first five Airbus A380s in the second half of 2022, when the superjumbos will take over Sydney-Los Angeles from July and Sydney-Singapore-London from November.

The airline also intends to take delivery of three more Dreamliners across July 2022-June 2023: these jets were previously due to arrive by the end of 2020, but once the pandemic set in, Qantas delayed their debut and had Boeing put them into storage.

Also read: Qantas restarts flights to Bali, Jakarta, Bangkok, Manila, Johannesburg

David

David Flynn is the Editor-in-Chief of Executive Traveller and a bit of a travel tragic with a weakness for good coffee, shopping and lychee martinis.

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16 Jul 2018

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Out of curiosity, what do people reckon is the best time (body clock wise) to fly from Europe to Australia? Is there a common wisdom or does basically come down to personal preference?

24 Aug 2011

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I've done both a number of times and neither is perfect. I probably prefer using Asia as a transit point compared with Middle East.  I just think the longer leg is better between Asia and Europe in both directions. 

Arriving into DXB at dawn after an evening departure from Europe when your body-clock says its 2AM is disorienting.  

I quite like the late morning departure from Europe that arrives in SIN early the next morning.  You have a meal after takeoff and can then get lots of sleep on the longer leg.  You then have a largely daylight hop back to MEL or SYD and can go straight to bed and start adjusting your scrambled body-clock.

I agree about that leg from Singapore, or Hong Kong for that matter, being best done in daylight instead of the usual overnight timing. That's one reason why I used to fly CX for Hong Kong trips as much as I could, I could do a daytime flight back. Same deal for international flights, HKG was great for flying to Europe and back, plus I could use the CX lounges to have a proper meal and even a rest between flights if I wanted to, eg the Cabanas at The Wing.

05 Oct 2017

Total posts 487

For Asia, I prefer daytime flights too, in both directions. SYD-BKK wheels up at 10am, arriving into BKK at 3.25 in summer or 4.30pm in winter, perfect. In the reverse direction you kind of lose a whole day (it's an 8am departure and 8 or 9pm arrival) but then you can head straight to bed instead of dealing with jet lag after an overnight flight and either having to sleep for a few hours in the morning on your first day back, or drift off to sleep in the afternoon during a meeting.

With Singapore Airlines to SIN, even more options and a slightly shorter flight.

21 Aug 2019

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Early departure from London and getting in in the evening in Australia and to bed 

01 Dec 2012

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For me, late afternoon or evening departure from Europe is best, provided it's a long leg (eg via Singapore) and not via the Middle East as the leg is too short. That said, I find it considerably easier to fly east to west following the sun, than vice versa.

I once did a crazy long-way-round trip Lima - Sao Paulo - Johannesburg - Sydney for silly ticketing reasons and was completely discombobulated on arrival.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

12 Jan 2017

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Have always preferred lunchtime departures from London, for an evening arrival into the East Coast. a lot easier resetting the body clock.

I also conversely preferred the late night departures from Melbourne on QF / CX / MH / EK that arrived in London in the afternoon. If I finishing my trip in Sydney, I'd still catch a flight down to Melbourne rather than take the afternoon departures from Sydney that arrive early morning in London. Staying awake all day upon arrival was always a mission too far.

AJW
AJW

16 Nov 2011

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Must admit when Qantas used to have 4 flights a day to London with one (or was it two) of them leaving London lunchtimeish I used to prefer them over the night time departures.

My first ever Qantas A380 trip was the lunchtime departure to Melbourne via Singapore. 

QF

04 Apr 2014

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I reckon people will just be happy to be traveling again.

11 Apr 2018

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Late arrival into LAX not good for ongoing flights to NYC etc 

21 Aug 2019

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And you don't want to do the red eye LAX NYC after the trans pacific crossing. Have done it once and very miserable 

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

09 May 2013

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If QF plans are short term, then some may travel to NYC via AKL on the proposed non stop between AKL and NYC. Once demand picks up, i would say QF would go back to what works best for them and the pax, which would be an early arrival into LAX and a close to mid day arrival with DFW or have the fancy non stop to ORD from BNE as initially planned.

20 Oct 2015

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A very interesting set of changes, and under the current circumstances they all make sense. Not great in the short term if you have to get a connecting flight from somewhere in the UK to join QF2 or from QF's arrival into SYD to get somewhere else, but it is what it is. Really interested to hear if Qantas opens its LHR and SIN lounges in the mornings, you sort of think they'd want to because this is what passengers expect, good for the brand etc. Might be cheaper all up to send them to another airline's lounge at LHR T3, eg BA or CX, or a contract lounge like SATS in SIN, but a good QF lounge experience is hard to beat.

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13 Jan 2015

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One of the main reasons I always fly SQ over QF to london is because of the (pre covid) 4 flights a day to LHR and up to 5 flights a day to MEL.  Allowed me to try many combinations over the years.

When flying in J i've come to find my preferred times as leaving LHR at 20:50 arriving SIN at 16:55 ( overnight sleep), then stay a night in a hotel before taking the 11am day flight arriving MEL around 8pm and stay awake the 2nd flight.  I like how the lounge is really empty before the 1pm departure from changi.

On the outbound I prefer the 15:40 departure from MEL arrive SIN around 9pm.  Again overnight at another hotel before taking the 1pm to arrive LHR around 7pm and probably take a nap on the long flight to be able to stay up a little later arriving in London.   I like to try a different hotel each time in Singapore just to spice it up a little.

05 Oct 2017

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Exactly how I would do things. Sometimes 2 nights rather than one night at the transit stop, but the way you've described it sounds perfect for staying well rested.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

08 May 2019

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I’m glad it will have changed back by the time I’m looking at travelling in July.   I’m hoping to travel to Scotland.  A morning departure would mean an overnight stay in a hotel, which isn’t particularly cheap around Heathrow. 

Last time I travelled through Heathrow (on a BA flight which was ticketed by JAL) I didn’t have the option of checking my bags through.  I had to claim my bags after my flight down from Aberdeen and check them in again the next morning.

I’d be more inclined to come back on QF10 or fly on a different airline altogether if the morning departure looked like becoming permanent.

Just yesterday I looked at flights for June and July next year travelling from Melbourne to London.  QF9 is scheduled to arrive in London at 0505 in early June and QF10 is scheduled to leave London at 12.10 in mid July.  We won't be able to connect with QF10 when returning to London from Corsica, but I'm happy these days not to worry about possibly missing connecting flights due to late departures or cancelled flights.

21 Aug 2019

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London departure is early but great getting back home to Sydney and crash out rather than in zombie state for the entire day 

10.25pm and 11.25pm being described at  as 'late evening'. 

WTF.

Well what would you call 10.30pm-11.30pm, except 'near midnight'?

Night. Like a normal person.

But seems from the downvotes that many would disagree with me and that late evening is an appropriate description of a time that is 35 minutes before midnight lol

06 Feb 2021

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The down votes may be because of the use of WTF, not your views on the appropriateness of the words used to describe the time.  Like you, I would regard a 10:30 PM or later departure as a night flight, not late evening. 

I think when you're trying to be more specific that just 'night' or 'day' you need to use terms like early evening, late evening, early morning, mid-morning etc etc, and that's obviously the case here. To say that QF11 flight leaves in the night is pretty wide open.

05 Oct 2017

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I agree. Even though we Aussies are traditionally early to bed people, I still agree that 10.25pm and 11.25pm is rather a night time flight (particularly since these flights operate overnight) than "late evening". To me 6-7pm is early evening, 7-8 or 830pm is mid evening and 8 or 830-10pm is late evening. Anything after 10pm is night time.

By contrast, in southern Europe, 10pm is considered "early evening" for dinner. LOL.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

04 Nov 2017

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Departing late afternoon and arriving mid-afternoon seems to be the better timing, imo.  Also still allows for afternoon connections (esp when the afternoon Transcons arrive late in the evening on the US East Coast).

AV
AV

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16 Apr 2013

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I just hope the direct PER-LHR flights (when/if they eventually restart), leave earlier in the day so I don't have to endure 21 hours of travelling in darkness!

AJW
AJW

16 Nov 2011

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That would be very unlikely considering the time such a flight would need to leave Melbourne to get into London the night before and turn the flight around so the plane wouldn't need to overnight in London. You would be looking at a departure from Melbourne around 4/5am if my calculations are right for an arrival around 8pm in London, and an 11pm departure back to Perth.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

02 Feb 2018

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Just clarifying re the LHR-SIN leg not being sold anymore... Does this mean expats living in Singapore can't book / fly QF to London on a SIN-LHR return ticket? Have I read that correctly? Thanks.

24 Aug 2011

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I think that is correct at the moment.  Once we move past the pandemic, I'd expect it to return.

That's correct, right now Qantas is only selling SYD-LHR and LHR-SIN, you can't buy the SIN leg separately.  Am sure this will change back sometime next year, it's just something to do with the immediate return of travel in the pandemic.

05 Oct 2017

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Might be better to route the flight through Darwin then. Have they even decided on which city will be chosen? With Singapore's almost daily flip flopping from "living with the virus" back to "putting in place more curbs", I'd ditch Singapore and just route the flight through Darwin (and later, Perth, once WA reopens) rather than dealing with unreliable Singapore.

07 May 2020

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Again AJ gives me another reason to go SQ to London over QF. Brisbane flyers do indeed exist and transiting through Sydney is a pain in the ***se. 

17 Jun 2020

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If you’re in Brisbane you will be lucky to be let outside of the state let alone the country for the next few years. Deal with it.

29 Sep 2021

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we're going overseas in December & flying out of Brisbane. Covid is so over.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

05 Jun 2014

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This is temporary til MAR 2022. QF not likely to be focusing on BNE traveller needs over the initial few months of restarting international travel given the QLD border situation...

Yes, Alan Joyce deliberately and personally made these changes just to annoy Brisbane people. Seriously Zorro14, you'd have to reckon most of the people flying SYD-LHR on QF1/2 would be from Sydney, and those that aren't might be more from regional NSW with a connecting flight, and then some from BNE, ADL etc, just like most of the people who will fly MEL-LHR on QF9/10 will be from Melbourne.

07 May 2020

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Good on you KW72. !

Why don’t you reply intelligently to the topic rather than dive straight down the COVID lane. 

AJW
AJW

16 Nov 2011

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Whilst his comment about years was a tad flippant the basic point he was making which is about COVID and state borders is entirely valid in the context of why Brisbane isn’t getting service at this time. 

01 Jul 2021

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Mate everything is about covid these days we can't change anything

AT
AT

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14 Sep 2012

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Hang on….shouldn’t the title of this article say “Qantas temporarily shifts to daytime……..”?

24 Oct 2010

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Hi AT: well, we're getting into the theory and construct of headlines here – that the change is temporary (at least appears to be, until end of March) is less critical than the fact that there is a change, and a substantive one at that – along with the practicality that there's a finite limit on the actual length of headlines (for reasons including what Google 'sees') and the current headline is already max'd out. 

AT
AT

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14 Sep 2012

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Fair enough call David. 

07 May 2020

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With all due respect to the respectful comments.

Whilst the article implies a resumption of timetable on QF2 in March, the article does not mention whether or not the London Sing leg can be purchased without an extension to Southern capitals. If that is indeed the case, all well and good, but if not it may well be more expensive and require an extra transit to fly QF for Brisbane flyers whenever we choose to fly in future. 

06 Feb 2021

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I think Qantas's timetable and scheduling is probably a developing situation at the moment, and will change between now and early 2022 depending on bookings, plus Government restrictions both here and overseas. And within Australia, both Federal and State Governments can impose restrictions on movement that will affect QF's schedules. Last week or so I was looking at flights to Haneda in April, there were three flights a week out of Melbourne, and four a week out of Sydney.  I've looked again tonight, and the flight is now shown for four nights a week out of Melbourne, so presumably bookings and enquiries are sufficient for them to already feel comfortable with scheduling increased flights.  I've not looked at Sydney departures again, but I would not be surprised if by April both cities are back to being served by daily direct flights to Tokyo.

Joe
Joe

03 May 2013

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I don't care about timing as much as I care about bringing back the A380 for said flights.

AKD
AKD

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22 Nov 2017

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Something not mentioned here - at this stage pax are still likely to need to quarantine at home for 7 days on arrival into Sydney (and presumably Melbourne). This will mean that the evening arrival into Australia doesn't matter so much for connecting flights, as pax will need to quarantine in their first port of arrival rather than being able to take onwards domestic flights. 

01 Dec 2012

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Very pertinent observation and relevant also to the thread on QF 9/10 potentially routing via Darwin rather than Perth. How would a Darwin hub work if some LHR-DRW passengers then transfer to domestic legs say to Brisbane or Adelaide before compulsory quarantine there, rather than going onto Melbourne? What about passenger mixing on domestic flights? (I know we’ve been there before, but not with Delta). Or would Darwin simply be a tech stop and all QF 10 passengers fly onto MEL? 

As Australian vaccination rates rise, these question would become moot when quarantine is no longer required.

AKD
AKD

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22 Nov 2017

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My best guess is that pax alighting in DRW would quarantine in DRW per whatever the NT rules are at the time before continuing onto their home state. Again, just a guess! 

I am assuming that "home quarantine" in NSW, VIC would only be for people with a home in which they can quarantine; ie not for people who live in other states who would need to be in a hotel? But honestly it'll be interesting to see how this all plays out. 

24 Aug 2011

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You are probably right.  As it currently stands, pax clearing immigration in DRW would need to "somehow" home quarantine there whilst those going onto to MEL would do it there.  By extension, this means there is no domestic uplift possible on QF10 between DRW and MEL with only pax originating in LHR able to do the final leg.  If this is the case, it makes SIN even more likely to get the nod compared with DRW.  

28 Apr 2017

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The new evening arrival time for QF2 doesn't work well for anyone trying to reach regional NSW. It's either an overnight stay and connecting flight the next day, or a late night drive. The need to home quarantine just makes booking flights even more complicated until the rules are made clear. After what will be two and a half years away from family by the time I can travel, that's just one more frustration that could have been avoided, particularly if these flights do not have to cater for passengers leaving/joining in Singapore.

The booking system clearly doesn't take Covid (or common sense) into account at all. For London to Port Macquarie in January I was given an option of QF10 to Melbourne, an overnight transit, morning flight to Brisbane and connection to Port Macquarie. Not happening!

I suspect more timetable changes before flights restart in any case. I'm just glad I didn't book last week when flights were on sale at the pre-Covid times and also via Perth!

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03 Mar 2014

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So assuming home quarantine is required on arrival, how exactly is that supposed to work with a connecting flight to regional centres or other states such as South Australia, ACT and Tasmania (?) which may allow home quarantine by then?

29 Sep 2021

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as Qantas A330s BNE/LAX/BNE are almost certainly going to stop for fuel in Pacific westbound, why doesn't Qantas work in with fiji air ? They own 46%. Fiji have plenty of aircraft that do NAN/LAX/NAN & easy to get to Fiji. Any B737 can do it.

21 Aug 2019

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A stop in Fiji is always welcome 

29 Sep 2021

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Nickj338395

Might just fly Fiji Airways in their new A350s. Much better airline, much better prices & can upgrade straight to a better business class, from any fare by simply bidding online from au$865 min bid for a sector like NAN/LAX or LAX/NAN. Think the fiji a350s have best business class across the Pacific. Anyone flown the fiji a350s & other airlines in business class to compare. The NAN/SFO sectors are flown with A332/3 & that business class is not quite as good as A350. Also at this stage, they appear to be flying daily SYD/NAN/LAX with connections from BNE & MEL most days.

Qantas

19 Apr 2012

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Johnno, this entirely depends on the load and their 747 experience ex Dallas taught them how to manage that very well. Dropping 50 low fare economy passengers may still be profitable.

29 Sep 2021

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Qantas doesn't have ANY low fares. The 744/A380 DFW/BNE or SYD had to stop often in Pacific for fuel apparently.

Qantas

19 Apr 2012

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Johnno it was occasionally and only through a couple of months each year.

AJW
AJW

16 Nov 2011

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Some A330-200’s are getting a mod or other paper change which would mean they wouldn’t need to stop for fuel. 

29 Sep 2021

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but no freight, a % of seats left empty, esp westbound, plus some crew rest seats. Wonder how many seats are actually left to sell ? 80% ?

26 Mar 2020

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I would prefer the evening departure to the USA much more suitable for many - "finish work at 5PM and then head to the airport to check-in for your evening depature

29 Sep 2021

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if heading east from LAX, really limits options & who wants to sit around for hours for a red eye. Strange things is Southwest, who are probably the biggest and best USA domestic airline, don't seem to do any red eyes.

17 Apr 2020

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What a load of old cobblers. The flights to the US have always involved an overnight component. It's just been moved earlier into the flight due the late evening departure. It could assist in better aircraft ultilisation as the airframe would do an immediate turnaround for the southbound flight.

20 Oct 2015

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Wow, splitting hairs is your thing, then? Of course the SYD-LAX flights have always had an overnight component, it's 14 hours long so it's going to be 'overnight' at some stage. I think the article is very clear about precisely how the timings have changed and their impact. Chill.

17 Apr 2020

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The article might more appropriately have been headlined Qantas shifts to late evening departures to LAX from SYD & MEL. Frankly, I don't give a rat's for QF or their schedules.

20 Oct 2015

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If you don't care about Qantas or its schedules then why bother even coming here to comment? Save it for something you do care about.

17 Apr 2020

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Executuve Traveller has repeatedly said that this website is not pro-QF. Therefore I continue to read in the hope there will be competing relevant to my areas of interest. Having flown across the Pacific more than 100 times in each direction, in all cabins, I have the experience to make comment.

24 Oct 2010

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Hi RMAGold – if we'd used that suggested headline of yours, we'd not have had room to also mention the revised timing for flights from London, which is clearly going to have a big impact on travellers too in terms of their pre-departure strategy, and arguably an even greater impact than the late evening departures to LAX from Sydney and Melbourne.

29 Sep 2021

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Qantas used to do a midday flight out of LAX to SYD which must have arrived in SYD around 8.30pm. With many of the Qantas flights from BNE, SYD, MEL previously arriving into LAX around 6am, which couldn't some be turned around & depart at 8.30 or 9am ?

BNE/LAX in Jan last year had 13 nonstops per week.

Are Qantas so short of aircraft that it all has to tie in with LHR ?

What happens when 1 aircraft goes U/S ?

Why can't Qantas bring back some A380 now ?

20 Oct 2015

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"BNE/LAX in Jan last year had 13 nonstops per week." That was before Covid, so your point is?

"What happens when 1 aircraft goes U/S ?" Qantas has all of its Boeing 787s up and running, no drama to switch one in.

"Why can't Qantas bring back some A380 now ?" Maybe because the airline doesn't expect there will be sufficient demand not just in the first week but ongoing to fill an A380 versus the much smaller Boeing 787? Also, the A380s need to be properly re-activated to be returned from Victorville, pilots re-certified, not sure that can all reliably be done in six weeks?

But put it this way, if Qantas thought it could fill those A380s and make more money off them than the 787s, don't you reckon it would be doing exactly that and bringing the A380s back now? Sometimes it helps to think of possible answers yourself before blurting out the question.

29 Sep 2021

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Qantas seems to have totally underestimated pent up demand, for USA/Canada in peak season which is roughly mid Dec to mid Jan which is about 10 weeks away.

It sounds like they are short aircraft, so they should be fast tracking some aircraft such as A380s.

Some of their fares are totally insane, as much as 4 times the opposition.

What are they thinking ?

05 Oct 2017

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There won't be enough demand to fill an entire A380 just yet.

I have a good feeling that we're gradually moving back to a semblance of normal, but right now borders are still shut and we can't put the horse before the cart.

Wait 6-9 months and IF by then, there is no more quarantine (including home quarantine) then maybe there will be enough demand to put some A380s back in service, even though I think it will probably be 12 months minimum.

29 Sep 2021

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ff

going back to BNE/LAX

13 X b787s/week in JAN 2020 to 3 x A332s/week in JAN 2022 (with the 332s losing probably 20% of seats)

That's a massive reduction, when other airlines seem to be running their JAN 2020 schedules.

Of course Qantas won't get much demand, if they continue to charge $4000 for LAX return.

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19 Jul 2014

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Anything than a red eye into NYC, zombie for two days in NYC.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

23 Mar 2012

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I've done both day and night departures from UK. I didn't notice much difference.   


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