Qantas and One World becoming a joke

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john wayne

Member since 23 Mar 2018

Total posts 3

Just check in your account details. And yes going on my childrens situation you will only have 30 left.

mannej

QF

Member since 21 May 2014

Total posts 173

Qantas have just reduced Life time Club membership to 50 years. We bought our children Life club on their 18th birthdays and suddenly there is an expiry date. That means they are akready a qurter thru their memberships. When they turn 68 it expires. Very sneaky and underhanded.


Has this been confirmed in writing, as I wouldn't put it past being a result of the recent updates to QF's IT systems and backend?


Where it used to state Expiry Life: It has the 2 dates when my children will have their 50th anniversary of joining. In other words their 68th birthday. One in 2054 and the other in 2056. quite odd seeing those dates become a relevant factor in our lives. Although not mine by then. haha

That doesn't answer my question? Other than speculating, have you got it confirmed by QF that it is anything more than a glitch in the QF IT back-end (very possible), or is it a change to the product?

tommygun

Delta Air Lines - SkyMiles

Member since 16 Oct 2017

Total posts 136

They can't sell a product as lifetime then say after you've paid, its not actually lifetime anymore.

Maybe it's the lifetime of the airline? Maybe Qantas figure they'll be out of business by 2050? I write this humorously, but you never know.

vfm

Member since 26 Jul 2015

Total posts 26

mmm....just checked my QF account online and yep, found out my "lifetime" QC membership now has an expiry date! I don't recall receiving any communication from QF about this.......actually, I wouldn't mind getting some QF correspondence about this, as I'd like to see how their PR dept can spin the change to a finite lifetime membership as an enhancement....
As for the OP's complaint; maybe Chris's recent post about "Escaping the gold or platinum status handcuffs" articulates whether chasing pts/status is worth it or not.

docsimonm

Member since 29 Mar 2017

Total posts 25

What a rant, just enroll in Enrich and fly Aust/KL direct!
QFF isn't for everyone but it sure beats a lot of other programms.


Why bother enrolling in enrich? What am I going to get out of it for a single trip?

Rufus1

Member since 04 Dec 2013

Total posts 65

Simple solution - get lifetime gold!


Although maybe this will be capped at 50 years of membership before you need to requalify, too...

AgentGerko

Member since 31 Jan 2013

Total posts 18

Yes, Oneworld is a farce that might do a few good things for the airlines but does almost nothing for passengers. In the days before alliances we had interline agreements and fares that allowed you to mix and match any airlines that had such an agreement and you were only limited by the mileage allowance on that route. Now we have a world of codeshares that don't really work and partners that aren't even combinable. Try flying to Hong Kong and back, oneway on QF and the other on CX. Both members of Oneworld that supposedly offers seamless travel between partners but apparently the partnership only occurs if they're not competing on a route.

airADL

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 25 Mar 2014

Total posts 198

Does ltg frequent flyer expire as well?

silvyvc

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 19 Jun 2017

Total posts 62



Compared to Virgin for example: Virgin holds all airlines pretty much on par.


I'd disagree. I did Queenstown to Auckland on Air NZ, put my VA to get SCs and points and I indeed got 10SCs, yet an appalling 173 points... even with JQ on NZ you get a minimum of 400points.

Plus VA is a virtual alliance, no real partnership. The lounges VA Gold and Plat get in SQ when flying economy are a joke and many more lounge options you can't access if you travel with their partners. Very complicated rules that an alliance makes easier.

What QF does, whether we like it or not, it's to incentive people to book through them. Now, that we decide to take a QF vs an alliance code, that's a different thing.

hutch

Member since 07 Oct 2012

Total posts 761

Yes, Oneworld is a farce that might do a few good things for the airlines but does almost nothing for passengers. In the days before alliances we had interline agreements and fares that allowed you to mix and match any airlines that had such an agreement and you were only limited by the mileage allowance on that route. Now we have a world of codeshares that don't really work and partners that aren't even combinable. Try flying to Hong Kong and back, oneway on QF and the other on CX. Both members of Oneworld that supposedly offers seamless travel between partners but apparently the partnership only occurs if they're not competing on a route.

You do realise, if Cathay and Qantas could co-operate in the manner you describe (metal neutral), in a market where there is minimal competition, the likely outcome is increased airfares. Not to mention that getting it past the regulators is a hard sell.


Interline agreements still exist post alliances and often cross alliances. Alliances are a marketing tool... They do not mean other airlines in your alliance are now instantly your best buddy who you'd happily have your customers fly over your own airline.

Nick Sydney 2

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 22 Jul 2015

Total posts 83

Horses for courses. My flying is to the US, UK, SIN and HK. All places where OW has a good coverage and meets my needs. I enjoy the Dubai lounges but not much point building up status with them as there is not much point my flying from Sydney to LAX via Dubai.

willvill

Member since 17 May 2012

Total posts 32

Qantas never stop devaluing your FF benefits...they just keep chipping away...


The most disloyal of the Qantas FF loyalty program is..... Qantas!!!

wozcor1

Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards

Member since 28 Jul 2013

Total posts 88

I have booked MH for a series of flights over Christmas. I checked the QF website calculator and couldn't believe the tiny 30 SC's out of Australia to KUL!! However, outside KUL to internal locations - the SC's jump up eg: BKK>KUL was like 40 or 60 for a short flight. For the price we paid - its more earning that paying full Y class between MEL>SYD>MEL!! Yes its a lot of flying but we both will come back with even status of 300 SC's. Also MH's J price was fantastic.

OzMattyD

Member since 25 Jul 2011

Total posts 8

Current Terms and Conditions are available at https://www.qantas.com/au/en/frequent-flyer/the-qantas-club/terms-conditions.html


Looking at the website today, it seems that the longest membership available is now 4 years.

Best point of contact is the Frequent Flyer Membership team. Contacts are on their website at https://www.qantas.com/au/en/support/contact-us/frequent-flyer-membership.html

worldwanderer

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 13 Jan 2017

Total posts 17

Qantas have just reduced Life time Club membership to 50 years. We bought our children Life club on their 18th birthdays and suddenly there is an expiry date. That means they are akready a qurter thru their memberships. When they turn 68 it expires. Very sneaky and underhanded.


As a result of this thread, just checked mine after last site update and my "expire date" is near my 152nd birthday.


I suspect a system generated random date that needs to be fixed sometime.


As there has been no Qantas announcement, or verification by calling them, all conjecture at this stage.


Last editedby worldwanderer at Jul 26, 2018, 04:59 PM.

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