Singapore Airlines brings Boeing 787-10 to Perth from May 7

By David Flynn , April 11 2018
Singapore Airlines brings Boeing 787-10 to Perth from May 7

Singapore Airlines will begin flying its new Boeing 787-10 aircraft to Perth from May 7 2018, bringing with it the airline's new lie-flat business class seating.

The Dreamliner will make its inaugural journey to Perth on Monday May 7 as SQ223 and return to Singapore that same day as SQ214, although from Tuesday May 8 the Boeing 787-10 will be rostered onto the daily SQ215/SQ216 service.

The jet features Singapore Airlines’ all-new regional business class seat in a 1-2-1 configuration, providing direct and uninterrupted aisle access to every passenger plus a fully flat bed.

There's no premium economy on these planes, with 301 economy seats perched behind business class.

AusBT review: Singapore Airlines Boeing 787-10 business class

Passengers booked into the pointy end of the Boeing 787-10 will want to select the best of those business class seats, which our expert seat guide suggests are

  • 11A and 11K, where unused bassinet space creates a 'corner office above the clouds'
  • any A or K seat for solo travellers (but only 12A, 12K, 15A, 15K, 17A, 17K, 19A or 19K if you want to be directly next to the window)
  • couples should book the following pairs of middle seats: 11D and 11F, 14D and 14F, 16D and 16F, 18D and 18F, 20D and 20F
  • but avoid 16A and 16K, which have no window

Read more: How to choose the best seats in Singapore Airlines' Boeing 787-10 business class

Singapore Airlines is the global launch customer for the Boeing 787-10 which will replace the airline’s older Boeing 777-200 and Airbus A330 jets on regional routes.

David

David Flynn is the Editor-in-Chief of Executive Traveller and a bit of a travel tragic with a weakness for good coffee, shopping and lychee martinis.

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Would the be the right style of J seat that VA might use for the 737? These seats seam more compact then whats already available on the 777...

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13 Jan 2015

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Huh? What's that got to do with anything?

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08 Jun 2014

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That it'll be a new plane but the seats will be smaller?

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10 Dec 2015

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@MattJelonek:
It's amazing some folks can already jump to the conclusion that "the seats will be smaller" despite the story clearly stated the photo is for a generic mock-up...let alone no seat size specs info has been released by SQ.

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08 Jun 2014

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Apoligies.

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08 Jun 2014

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Apologies for the spelling mistake... am tired..

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

18 Dec 2016

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Amazing news. Three more to go

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

14 Dec 2016

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Awesome news!

Quick question though. Although the 777-200's are aging, which J class is better. These seem quite small in comparison.

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14 Mar 2017

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Depends, do you like being shaken like a frog in a sock for a few hours, sliding down your seat till you are pooled at the bottom like a milkshake, while suffering mild hearing damage, or getting some sleep in a slightly awkward position?

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14 Mar 2017

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Seriously, however, this design allows a straight sleeping position, so length aside, it is probably better than the current designs SQ uses, which are a bit restrictive.

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10 Dec 2015

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@xtfer:

I totally get what U are saying.

In fact, I'm 99% certain that in terms of cabin floor footprint per seat, this new regional J to be deployed by SQ on 78J(and regional config 359 later) consumes far more floor area than the existing regional J on SQ's 772/333 due to 1 simple diff in their designs:
The new 1 is designed for 1-2-1 layout while the old 1 is for 2-2-2 layout.

The effect is actually very significant if we recall the cabin diameter of a 787(i.e. 1-2-1 layout in new J) is already 5.9% wider than a 330(i.e. 2-2-2 layout in old J).

Some folks here don't realize that currently popular J design features such as horizontal flat bed+direct aisle access for every seat consumes a lot more real estate than older generation J designs without these features. This is regardless of whether the total seating surface area actually in contact with a pax is larger/smaller than before.

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Yea but it's not a true 1-2-1 like their long haul configs where you get the full width. These staggered arrangements are like a psuedo 2-4-2 but obviously more width as shoulders align with the feet of the person behind.

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19 Feb 2014

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It's great to see SQ add more seats and a better product to a route which I thought was oversaturated.

06 Jan 2015

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I would have thought the same, yet every time I fly with them they manage to have full planes in/out Perth!

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10 Dec 2015

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@Chris_PER:

"It's great to see SQ add more seats"
I was actually very surprised by such a high seat count level for 78J when 1st revealed by SQ a few wks ago. Nominal 2-class seat count on Boeing brochure is only 330 yet SQ configured their birds for 337. This is not typical for any widebody type at all....airlines usually select a far lower cabin density than stated on manufacturer's brochure e.g. contrast the seat count actually used by SQ vs stated on Airbus brochure re 359.

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26 May 2014

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I am sure this is good for those that can justify J fares for a 5 hour flight. For the rest it means a narrower seat and still no possibility of PE. I recently flew SIN-PER in Y on the overnight service and would have paid extra for PE. Chris_PER, the flight was completely full.

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20 Dec 2017

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Anything longer than 15 minutes justifies J ;) In this generic configuration they look a little narrow for my 183cm 100kg.

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13 Jan 2015

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Finally someone else who is essentially the same size as me

Similar size here. How’s your blood sugar level? My doc just asked me to lose 26 kg and no sugar in coffee whatsoever! Imagine having to watch your diet while going through the lounges...

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Mine's fine also been going gym 4 times a week so fitness is improving and fat replaced with muscles. Currently in Japan for holiday walking 20-30km a day including some hill climbing.

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19 Feb 2014

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I too flew SQ PER-SIN last week and it was half full. I guess that load factor doesn't necessarily mean loss-inducing.

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It's always full from PER

10 Aug 2015

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These are available for booking and will replace A333 or 772 (don't know from BNE) SQ215/216 from the 9 MAY 2018. Where will it go after this?

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13 Nov 2015

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My SQ216 just got a seat change notification. On the app, it no longer shows what aircraft is operating that flight. However the new seating map shows Economy starting at Row 41. Then there's 18 rows in the forward cabin. There's another 18 rows in the rear cabin, finishing at Row 75. 3-3-3 seating. Two lavatories at the front, one in between and two at the rear.

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18 Aug 2017

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Much better than flying on the 737-800 that Qantas run up there from Perth

QFF

06 Nov 2012

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Just got an email from DQ advising of the seat change for an up-coing trip. :(


This is a real downgrade for those flying cattle class - really can't justify SQ's J fares for a five hour flight. SWMBO and I had windows & aisle seats in the 2-4-2 arrangement on the A330, now have 2 out of 3 abreast on the Nightmareliner.

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14 Jan 2014

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HATE the Nightmareliner so have to agree with you

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21 Jan 2016

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What is wrong with the B787 (Nightmareliner)?

There is nothing wrong with the B787.

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It's a nightmare for people in Y (although no worse than 777s with 3-4-3)

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15 Aug 2017

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Generally the 787 is great in premium cabins. However for the majority in Y on airlines that have chosen to run the 3-3-3 config it’s more crammed than ever before with less width in the seat and shoulder width than the aircraft it is replacing.



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We're booked into J on SQ226 and SQ213 later in the year, looks like they're going on SQ215/216 first as others have said. Although both our flights are still re-fitted 772 with the 1-2-1 layout, so not as big a difference as those with the current regional layout.

23 Feb 2018

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I’m flying back from Singapore on May 24th on SQ216 and we seem to be on the 787 now, as I’m traveling with my partner I’m sad to lose the 2-4-2 seating but I’m also excited to try the new product

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The 772s in 1-2-1 are still a decent product so it makes sense that they replace those A330s with the godawful J seats

06 Jan 2015

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Not to mention they are also fantastic in Y :) (the 772s that is)

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13 Jan 2015

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yea the older style padded seats

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13 Jun 2015

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What type of economy seats will SQ 787-10 will have as their product?

The Recaro CL3710 as used on the new A380s apparently.

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06 Feb 2014

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Well its a lot better than those tired old 777.200s with their 2.2.2 configuration, however once again Perth is a forgotten backwater..no PE

Only PE to Europe is th longer journey with Cathay or Qantas non stop to London
It is also much better than those passenger unfriendly 737s Qantas insult us with

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16 Jun 2017

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I don't suppose there are any plans for Adelaide for the 787?

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If SQ had announced it we'd have reported it. But, as the article indicates, you can eventually expect to see the 787-10 (or perhaps one of the regional A350-900s) move into any Aussie city which has Boeing 777-200s and likely A330s – see https://www.executivetraveller.com/singapore-airlines-ramps-up-regional-fleet-with-boeing-787-airbus-350 for more on this.


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